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    1. Austen Allred‏ @Austen 8 Nov 2020

      If we cancelled all student loan debt today, based on the current student debt growth rate, we’d be back in the same place in ~10 years. The debt is a only a symptom of a much deeper disease.

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    2. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 8 Nov 2020
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      Which in turn implies that cancelling student debt would be not merely ineffective, but dangerous, because it would mask the underlying problem.

      29 replies 20 retweets 532 likes
    3. Austen Allred‏ @Austen 8 Nov 2020
      Replying to @paulg

      It would exacerbate it. Students would be willing to take on even more student debt because there’s now always a chance the government could just forgive it. It might be a short-term stimulus, but makes the underlying fundamentals worse.

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 8 Nov 2020
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      Also, words like "cancel" and "forgive" are somewhat misleading. The debt doesn't just disappear. What cancelling student debt actually means is that the people who don't have student debt have to give money to the people who do.

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        2. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 8 Nov 2020
          Replying to @amurshak @Austen

          That would be a great idea, because it would make lenders have to pay attention to risk.

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        1. JT Tyler‏ @JTT329 8 Nov 2020
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          Which would be an absolute disaster seeing how half the country thinks the political/cultural ideas that come from a college education are as big of a problem as the price people pay to acquire them.

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        2. Vineet Madan‏ @vimadan 8 Nov 2020
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          and that people who paid off student loan debt through decades of diligent saving and investing forgoing other consumption over that time period get screwed

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        3. Vineet Madan‏ @vimadan 8 Nov 2020
          Replying to @vimadan @paulg @Austen

          amend that, get screwed - twice over. Once for paying off their own debt and the second time for increased taxes to pay off the debts of those who didn’t pay their own. BTW, their is a massive hidden issue around sub-par graduation rates, <60% at 4 yr schools and <30% at 2 yrs

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        1. Sluggy‏ @SlugFool 8 Nov 2020
          Replying to @paulg @Austen

          I’m always sad that banks (and their losses) are never brought up in these student loan dialogues 🤷‍♂️

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        2. Austen Allred‏ @Austen 8 Nov 2020
          Replying to @paulg

          There’s no such thing as free lunchpic.twitter.com/Nd8GAtETCM

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        3. pissedoffpescatarian‏ @Pissedoffpesca 8 Nov 2020
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          Maybe I am too cynical but I am not sure the guy who represented Delaware for so long will all the sudden make this pivot.

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        1. Jeremy Fiel‏ @jeremyfiel 8 Nov 2020
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          Or the outrageous cost for school will be readjusted and the value redefined.

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        1. Blake Miller‏ @ImBmills 8 Nov 2020
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          Or the people who have paid off student debt, paying off more for others.

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