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    1. Artur Adib‏ @r2r 7 Nov 2020

      We now move more than $50 Trillion per year in electronic bank transfers on behalf of individuals, companies, and governments. And yet, election after election, we watch this nonsense of manual counting unfold like it’s normal. Our machinery of democracy is stuck in the 1700s.

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 7 Nov 2020
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      Though they sound backward, paper ballots are a good idea. A bank is a lot better prepared to fend off serious attackers than the Nevada state government.

      7:07 AM - 7 Nov 2020
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        2. Jules Pitt‏ @PittLabs 7 Nov 2020
          Replying to @paulg @r2r

          Banks also aren't required to somehow not know who you are and how much money you have, which helps things considerably

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        3. Raul Miller‏ @raudelmil 7 Nov 2020
          Replying to @PittLabs @paulg @r2r

          Is this sarcasm? On twitter?

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        2. Piyush Vjani‏ @42piyush 7 Nov 2020
          Replying to @paulg @r2r

          When are paper ballots better than EVM?

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        3. seanofiachra‏ @seanofiachra 7 Nov 2020
          Replying to @42piyush @paulg @r2r

          Ireland did one evm. Country decided this is muck, straight back to pencil and paper. Impersonal and flippant. As much thought and care given to the winner of a jelly bean counting competition. When you care, it's more important.

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        1. Osma Ahvenlampi‏ @osma 7 Nov 2020
          Replying to @paulg @r2r

          Yes. Unlike money, which is supposed to be traceable down to identities (and electronic money certainly is), election ballots have completely different requirements. Anonymous, yet unique. No one person allowed to cast two.

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        2. ZeroPass‏ @zeropassio 7 Nov 2020
          Replying to @paulg @r2r

          Not being able to verify your vote was even counted is terrible. It's a boomer tech at its best.

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        3. ZeroPass‏ @zeropassio 7 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeropassio @paulg @r2r

          It births untrust, voter suppression (why vote if you don't trust the system?!) and provides a risk of kickstarting civil unrest. It's also very expensive to recount and provide parties many openings to challenge resoults in the courts. (which adds monetary and political costs)

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        1. Abdiel Aviles‏ @abdielou 7 Nov 2020
          Replying to @paulg @r2r

          Agreed. Voting has much more sensitivity to fraud than financial transactions. The only viable electronic mechanism would be DLTs, and maybe a mix of paper + DLTs.

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        2. Artur Adib‏ @r2r 7 Nov 2020
          Replying to @paulg

          States already have to handle sensitive electronic data provided by the population (tax returns). I think the holdup has less to do with cybersecurity concerns and more with typical government inertia. Handling sensitive electronic transactions is not new in government.

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        3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 7 Nov 2020
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          Foreign governments don't care about tax returns as much as they care about votes.

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