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    1. Nicole Barbaro‏ @NicoleBarbaro 30 Oct 2020

      Nicole Barbaro Retweeted Carl T. Bergstrom

      Really excellent 🧵 on the *overwhelming* downsides (and creepiness) of online exam proctoring software, and what professors should be doing instead: writing exams that ask higher Bloom-level questions that can’t be answered with a google search.https://twitter.com/CT_Bergstrom/status/1322369355930165248 …

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      Carl T. BergstromVerified account @CT_Bergstrom
      1. A thread for my fellow college and university instructors, though high school teachers and students may be interested as well. Amidst the pandemic we're all trying to adapt to giving and taking exams online. The "simple" solution is to keep writing exams as we always have...
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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 31 Oct 2020
      Replying to @NicoleBarbaro

      Another problem with this sort of software is that it tends not to be written by very good programmers.

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        1. @novicus‏ @novicus 31 Oct 2020
          Replying to @paulg @NicoleBarbaro

          true

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        1. Erald David‏ @david_erald 31 Oct 2020
          Replying to @paulg @NicoleBarbaro

          Hi Paul, could you give insight for a junior programmer on how to deconstruct things and build the simple part first? Thanks Paul, fan of your work from Indonesia.

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        1. BourbonicPlague‏ @BourbonicP 31 Oct 2020
          Replying to @paulg @NicoleBarbaro

          This is true of a huge percentage of software that regular people are forced to use 8 hours a day for work. I once thought people were joking about programmers who can’t complete FizzBuzz. But I’ve met many of them while working on 3rd party integrations.

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        1. siggy  🇺🇸 ✊🏽‏ @sbilstein 31 Oct 2020
          Replying to @paulg @NicoleBarbaro

          Yes, esp considering the recent fiasco with medical board exams in the US having to be cancelled.

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        1. Nicole Barbaro‏ @NicoleBarbaro 31 Oct 2020
          Replying to @paulg

          I can imagine! I don’t know much about the details of how the software works, but from what I do understand it’s not open source so we really don’t know what we’re asking students to install on their computers.

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        1. Joey G‏ @ijoeyguerra 31 Oct 2020
          Replying to @paulg @NicoleBarbaro

          People don’t really “want” to be tested in the first place. I wonder if the underlying problem is that the professors objectives aren’t aligned with the students objectives.

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        2. Lukman Ramsey‏ @lukmanR 1 Nov 2020
          Replying to @paulg @NicoleBarbaro

          This is a really weird thing to say. I know a team building ML models to detect items of interest in video streams for online proctoring. Models have to run on the edge (on student devices) in some cases to reduce latency. It's challenging. They are excellent programmers.

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        3. Lukman Ramsey‏ @lukmanR 1 Nov 2020
          Replying to @lukmanR @paulg @NicoleBarbaro

          I get it - online proctoring is inherently creepy, because, well, you are monitoring someone in real time. But it can help increase students access to education, and reduce the need to travel. Both important benefits.

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