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    Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Oct 2020

    Places where success is zero-sum don't just train people to think that way. The people they attract are already disproportionately likely to prefer such games.

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      2. Chris Hladczuk‏ @chrishlad 18 Oct 2020
        Replying to @paulg

        If you were to train someone to think in positive-sum, what would you do?

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      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Oct 2020
        Replying to @chrishlad

        I would encourage them to build new things that make people's lives better. Corollary: Quit Goldman Sachs.

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      2. Outrunthewolf‏ @outrunthewolf 18 Oct 2020
        Replying to @paulg

        Do you have a working example out of curiosity?

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      3. ice9‏ @__ice9 18 Oct 2020
        Replying to @outrunthewolf @paulg

        Trading.

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      1. Firas Durri‏ @firasd 18 Oct 2020
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        Seems like it's easy to get skilled people to work very hard for a few top spots if you offer 'prestige' in return. If I remember correctly, you may have a quote about this in an essay...

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      1. Bartolomé Salas‏ @BSalasManzanedo 18 Oct 2020
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        Somehow it is gresham's law. Isn't it?

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      1. Lucio Martelli‏ @LucioMM1 18 Oct 2020
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        or they have no clue, like most wonnabe-actors

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      2. Mike Kelly‏ @mikekelly85 18 Oct 2020
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        Most games aren’t inherently zero sum. Most games have zero-sum and non-zero-sum strategies. People are conditioned to assume the only available set of strategies to draw from are zero sum. Many don’t see cooperative opportunities because they assume everything is combative.

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      3. Nick Walker‏ @nw3 18 Oct 2020
        Replying to @mikekelly85 @paulg

        I’m not a game theory expert but it seems the issue is when zero sum thinking gets you closer to the Nash solution, or is the Nash solution. Positive sum strategies can be suboptimal or leave you exposed.

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      1. megabar‏ @megabar_ 18 Oct 2020
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        I agree. This principle, in general, is why cause and effect are so hard to distinguish in human behavior.

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