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    1. Michael Nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 9 Oct 2020

      Interesting to think about voting models where people can express intensity Eg you get 50 lifetime tokens, & can distribute them over presidential candidates however you like If you really love or hate a candidate, you can express that by using more tokens that cycle

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 10 Oct 2020
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      This would probably make candidates take more extreme positions, because they'd all be chasing the 50 tokens that would be rashly spent by 18 year olds.

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        1. Nick Barone‏ @narfanator 10 Oct 2020
          Replying to @paulg @michael_nielsen

          always consider the failure modes of your system (and then layer your systems to minimize the failure mode overlap). see: utility monster, time-to-dick and "what happens when the Goons use it"

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        1. James Hannam‏ @DrJamesHannam 10 Oct 2020
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          Not to mention that every election is the ‘most important of our lifetimes’.

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        1. Nish Sinha‏ @Nishnha 10 Oct 2020
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          Yep this is a known issue of ranked choice voting. STAR alleviates this issue but there will always be voters who make uninformed/unwise decisions 🤷🏾‍♂️

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        1. Drey 🛋 🚶Vier‏ @VierDrey 10 Oct 2020
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          And I would not like to live in a society that is filled with people who no longer have a token to vote

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        1. David Engel‏ @davidengel79 10 Oct 2020
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          If everyone (regardless of age) were granted 50 tokens, you’d expect the boomers+ to spend more rashly, as they have less time to ration. Which would still end in extreme positions, trending to the right.

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        1. Akshat Agarwal‏ @agakshat7 10 Oct 2020
          Replying to @paulg @michael_nielsen

          It would be rational for younger voters to spend disproportionately larger amount of tokens, given the enacted policies would impact them for longer.

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        1. Dan Bell‏ @DanBell 10 Oct 2020
          Replying to @paulg @michael_nielsen

          An extreme election or two we could take, but there would then be an outcry from all the "22-yr-olds with no voice" in society, so more tokens would be issued.

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        1. Deniz Kural‏ @denizkural 10 Oct 2020
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          Perhaps it is not that rash - 18 year olds have more to lose than people with diminished life expectancy. As a separate topic, young people are less nuanced but often more principled in intent.

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        1. Benicio‏ @deltrolo 10 Oct 2020
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          Probably we need a system where number of tokens available depends on taxes paid.

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