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    1. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 27 Aug 2020

      Paul Graham Retweeted Soviet Visuals

      Interesting: By 1957 there was an awareness in the Soviet Union that bureaucrats were a problem. I expect this was a side-effect of some political conflict, but it's still surprising one could disparage bureaucrats. Who else is there to run things in a centrally planned economy?https://twitter.com/sovietvisuals/status/1298930757470167043 …

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      "Bureaucrat, loafer, drunkard. Get them out of the field!" Soviet poster, 1957 pic.twitter.com/PLChNSEn8m
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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 27 Aug 2020

      Yes indeed. In 1957, Khrushchev was fighting to take control of the Soviet economy from the ministries Stalin had set up to run it. Presumably, once this fight was over, bureaucrats were ok again. https://marxists.catbull.com/archive/deutscher/1957/khrushchev-economy.htm …

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        1. clarkus007‏ @Clarkus007 27 Aug 2020
          Replying to @paulg

          the bureaucratic, ruling class in most societies never dies. They just invent another crisis, push the media to ramp up the fearporn then swoop in to save us all from ourselves. #blmhoax #chinesevirushoax

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        2. Gekaremi‏ @gekaremi 27 Aug 2020
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          probably it is also translation problem, бюрократы in Russian have a automatic negative value as somebody who more value paper more than real intentions and people etc. This is not such job title and nobody will call oneself бюрократ (maybe only in self-derogatory sense)

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        3. Veronica Humble‏ @veronica_humble 27 Aug 2020
          Replying to @gekaremi @paulg

          Precisely

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        1. Mark Tsimelzon‏ @marktsimelzon 27 Aug 2020
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          The word 'bureaucrat' never had positive connotations in Russian. Bureaucrats were always perceived as people who add no value and slow down progress. Which, of course, does not negate the fact that there may have been a more active explicit campaign against them at some point.

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        2. Karen Kazaryan‏ @Kirion_Kir 27 Aug 2020
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          Not really, basically every single Soviet comedy features cartoonishly evil and/or incompetent bureaucrat as antagonist and some protagonist from Comsomol (Communist youth) or the party. That's just how propaganda worked.

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        3. Karen Kazaryan‏ @Kirion_Kir 27 Aug 2020
          Replying to @Kirion_Kir @paulg

          Possible division lines between bad and good characters: old/young, local / from Moscow (sometimes vice versa), man / woman (sometimes with romance at the end), etc.

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        1. Vladimir Kravchenko‏ @krive888 27 Aug 2020
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          Each time you fighting against something in Soviet Union its leads to growing this something (because the first thing you do is create a committee to combat this)

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        1. Yuri Barzov‏ @ybarzov 27 Aug 2020
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          During Soviet times the major objective of all bureaucrats was to fight bureaucrats. Not surprisingly they lost

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        2. ethan_the_mathmo‏ @MathmoThe 27 Aug 2020
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          Solzenhitsyn makes an interesting observation about this in the Gulag Archipelago. Even communist party members who had been sent to the gulag largely stayed loyal to the ideology (and viewed themselves as better than the others), and failings were generally pinned on saboteurs

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        3. ethan_the_mathmo‏ @MathmoThe 27 Aug 2020
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          (2/2) and 'wreckers'. In this vein, blaming some bureaucrats as the ones at fault for a poorly functioning system was not dissimilar from when they blamed the engineers in the show trials (etc) when the underlying problem/heresy was that a centrally planned economy could not work

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