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    1. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Aug 2020

      Modeling a Wealth Tax: http://paulgraham.com/wtax.html 

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    2. Seth Bannon  👨‍🔬‏Verified account @sethbannon 18 Aug 2020
      Replying to @paulg

      Let's look at what a 1% US wealth tax would mean for Jeff Bezos. He founded Amazon 26 years ago. A 1% wealth tax means he keeps 99% of Amazon stock each year. .99^26 = .77 = 77% So he'd currently be worth $145B instead of $188B. You're saying he would have left the US?

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    3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Aug 2020
      Replying to @sethbannon

      No, I'm not saying that he would have left the US.

      1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
    4. Seth Bannon  👨‍🔬‏Verified account @sethbannon 18 Aug 2020
      Replying to @paulg

      "Even a .5% wealth tax would start to keep founders away from a state or country that imposed it." What did you mean by that? Thought you were saying there would be a chance the Bezoses (the great founders) would leave the US / not start startups if we implemented a wealth tax.

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    5. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Aug 2020
      Replying to @sethbannon

      Look at what I wrote. I didn't say it would cause people already there to leave. And I didn't say it would be decisive for everyone at that rate, just that it would start to influence people's decisions.pic.twitter.com/8HYEPvJbh2

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    6. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Aug 2020
      Replying to @paulg @sethbannon

      If I believed a statement as strong as "Amazon wouldn't be in the US if there were a 1% wealth tax" was true, I'd have written that instead.

      1 reply 0 retweets 23 likes
    7. Seth Bannon  👨‍🔬‏Verified account @sethbannon 18 Aug 2020
      Replying to @paulg

      I see. I think great founders will start companies in the place that maximizes the chance they create an Amazon-level success, not in the place with the lowest taxes. At some point taxes may be too aggressive but a low single digit wealth tax isn't that.

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Aug 2020
      Replying to @sethbannon

      It's not as simple as that. There are many good founders outside CA who are already on the fence about moving there. When you're already on the fence it takes very little to tip you. Giving up half your company if you move, versus none if you stay, could easily be enough.

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        2. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Aug 2020
          Replying to @paulg @sethbannon

          Incidentally, I'm not sure if you realize this, but Amazon is only in Washington because it has no sales tax.

          4 replies 2 retweets 34 likes
        3. Seth Bannon  👨‍🔬‏Verified account @sethbannon 18 Aug 2020
          Replying to @paulg

          Corporate taxes that have a direct impact on the ability to run a profitable business (a state tax on online sales vis a vis Amazon being a great example) are quite different from personal wealth taxes.

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        2. Seth Bannon  👨‍🔬‏Verified account @sethbannon 18 Aug 2020
          Replying to @paulg

          Given that the interest you can earn on accumulated wealth is greater than a 1% wealth tax, it's still most rational to optimize for the place that let's you create great wealth in the first place.

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        3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Aug 2020
          Replying to @sethbannon

          It's possible that moving your company to California would make it 3x as valuable, so that you'd still be net better off after giving half of it to the government, but would you claim that publicly?

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