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    1. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Aug 2020

      Modeling a Wealth Tax: http://paulgraham.com/wtax.html 

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    2. opsecmopsec‏ @opsecmopsec 18 Aug 2020
      Replying to @paulg

      With all due respect, isn’t this also true to home ownership (ie property taxes), yet people still flock in hoards to buy houses. For CA, a state where house demand has historically skyrocketed, the “property tax” can easily be 1.25%.

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Aug 2020
      Replying to @opsecmopsec

      When you buy a house, the cost of property tax is already priced in.

      6:44 AM - 18 Aug 2020
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        2. Matt Brennan‏ @2meterMatt 18 Aug 2020
          Replying to @paulg @opsecmopsec

          OK, but what about the time before property taxes existed?

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        3. Damon DeVito‏ @damondevito 18 Aug 2020
          Replying to @2meterMatt @paulg @opsecmopsec

          I believe there was a destruction of value that caused people to change location...pretty much the same thing @paulg is soberly suggesting here.

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        2. Justin‏ @JuJoDi 18 Aug 2020
          Replying to @paulg @opsecmopsec

          So when you value a startup, the cost of the wealth tax will be priced in, right?

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        3. Adam Carmack‏ @adamcarmack 18 Aug 2020
          Replying to @JuJoDi @paulg @opsecmopsec

          Yeah, no matter what problem you solve the max you can make off of it is $30 million, so why solve big problems?

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        2. opsecmopsec‏ @opsecmopsec 18 Aug 2020
          Replying to @paulg

          But isn't this a post-mortem look? Question is, when the property-tax was introduced did it cause a mass exodus? If not, we can technically say the same thing after a carefully considered and balanced wealth-tax is integrated into the system that finds the sweet spot.

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        3. 2% Milk is a fair compromise‏ @2percentisfair 18 Aug 2020
          Replying to @opsecmopsec @paulg

          Now that the SALT deduction is capped you are seeing an exodus (many different reasons but actually paying full property tax is one of them). In addition, the wealth tax will hit a much more mobile group than middle class homeowners.

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        1. James Jansson‏ @jamesjansson 18 Aug 2020
          Replying to @paulg @opsecmopsec

          Same with creating a company?

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        2. depo‏ @deporojue 18 Aug 2020
          Replying to @paulg @opsecmopsec

          I believe this suffers from the same issue you laid out in "DH4. Counterargument" section of "How to Disagree." The fact that the cost of property tax is already priced in misses the point. At an annual rate of 1%, over the duration of a 30-year mortgage the government will...

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        3. depo‏ @deporojue 18 Aug 2020
          Replying to @deporojue @paulg @opsecmopsec

          ...have extracted 74% of the value of your home through property tax. This is precisely the same "applied over and over to the same money" phenomenon yet we as a society have come to accept it. I think that is a point worth being called out in the context of your piece.

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        1. Vincent Tibbets‏ @UtilaTheEcon 19 Aug 2020
          Replying to @paulg @opsecmopsec

          Which is why property tax is kind of dumb.

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