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    1. Tate Reeves‏Verified account @tatereeves 13 Jul 2020

      Let’s talk about herd immunity. I’ve listened to some people argue that the rapid spread of cases is a good thing, and we need to reach herd immunity in Mississippi and elsewhere to survive. I’m not a health care expert by any means, but I am a math guy. And I have thoughts:

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    2. Brad Hunstable‏Verified account @bhunstable 14 Jul 2020
      Replying to @tatereeves @paulg

      Overly simplistic. These are complex systems and many professional herd immunity experts are now arguing it could as low as 20% not to mention T cell immunity.

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 14 Jul 2020
      Replying to @bhunstable @tatereeves

      If it's 20%, his argument still holds.

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        1. We Live to (Onramp) CFO‏ @WeLivetoServe 14 Jul 2020
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        2. Brad Hunstable‏Verified account @bhunstable 14 Jul 2020
          Replying to @paulg @tatereeves

          1/ Disagree. But I’m biased since the mandatory lockdown resulted in my sons suicide. Knee jerk policy decision from rabid empathy (horrendous for policy making) vs rational compassion for downstream health effects.

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        3. Brad Hunstable‏Verified account @bhunstable 14 Jul 2020
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          2/ selective depletion” of people who are more susceptible—can quickly decelerate a virus’s spread.

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        2. buffalobuffalobuffalo‏ @noisegroove 14 Jul 2020
          Replying to @paulg @bhunstable @tatereeves

          His math is goofy. It only works if every infected person equals a tested and recorded case.

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        3. Amy Flaherty‏ @CarpeMagica 15 Jul 2020
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          Herd immunity only works in previously infected don't become reinfected. This virus reinfects.

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        1. Dana Beyer, M.D.‏ @DanaBeyerMD 14 Jul 2020
          Replying to @paulg @bhunstable @tatereeves

          Regardless, recent research shows antibodies lasting only several months. More importantly, some have been reinfected after showing antibodies.

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        1. NotTheRealMe‏ @nickduncs 14 Jul 2020
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          Not to mention that antibodies seem to only last 3 months. So as soon as you get close, you’d have to start all over again

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        1. Alan Edgett‏ @ACEdge 14 Jul 2020
          Replying to @paulg @bhunstable @tatereeves

          I believe his logic is incorrect. HIT = 1-1/R(o). To attain 40%, you need infection rate R(o) of 1.65. So it is not a straight 1.2m needed (3k/day) but rather a R(o) of 1.65 or below. And, as mentioned, we seem to be seeing a lot of examples of sharp declines of R(o) at 20% HIT

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        2. Sudha Lakshmi‏ @sudha_lakshmi 14 Jul 2020
          Replying to @paulg @bhunstable @tatereeves

          Paul, he's conflating confirmed cases with actual infections—a pretty egregious error. Even per the CDC, our testing regime misses 10x infections. So his numbers are off by at least a factor of 10: based on the numbers he gave, MS is at ~12% prevalence, not 1.2% as he's assuming.

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        3. Akshay Chaturvedi‏ @Akshay001 14 Jul 2020
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          ^ what you said @vishalgondal

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