The dirty secret about the Ivy League is that they could easily replace their entire incoming class with students they rejected and still be the same. Probably a few times over.
Not quite. 5-10% of the kids are measurably smart math hotshots, and there is no replacement for those. What you say is true of the median student though.
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Some of them get cut too
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I would think this is true of any batch in any school. No?
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And do the top universities benefit from the hotshot during undergrad? Most of the hotshots, almost by definition, can probably manage without an undergraduate education, and so if the universities recruit the hotshots at graduate level nothing really will be different.
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Don't those kids already skip the classes they don't need and take graduate level classes while undergrads?
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Even dirtier secret. If you remove Harvard out of the list, I am not even sure how “elite” the rest are. Also now a days with kids owning massive social media channels, making real useful things, the value of degree is all time low.
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Those 5-10 % don't need Ivy actually. Just that they realize it much later.
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How do you know that 5-10% of the rejected kids aren't also math hotshots?
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don't the math stars gravitate toward Stanford & MIT? w/ ya both on the rest: hardest part is getting in — none of the IVYs let students flail. support (even coddle) in a way in which just about any grad gets to launch into the real world w/ fancy door-opening paper.
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