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    1. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 16 Apr 2020

      If it turns out that the coronavirus did escape from a lab in Wuhan, Twitter is going to owe ZeroHedge an apology for automatically flagging every link to their site. In fact they probably already do.pic.twitter.com/BIfpOl3RPP

      134 replies 502 retweets 3,058 likes
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    2. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside 16 Apr 2020
      Replying to @paulg

      Are we memory-holing the specific reason for the ban? It wasn’t for just broaching the lab idea.pic.twitter.com/XmQ12HA0uX

      4 replies 8 retweets 64 likes
    3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 16 Apr 2020
      Replying to @noUpside

      There are two separate things happening here: shutting down their Twitter account, and flagging links to their site as dangerous. The former is arguably a justifiable punishment for giving the researcher's phone number. But how does this (mild) doxxing make the site dangerous?

      4 replies 2 retweets 34 likes
    4. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside 16 Apr 2020
      Replying to @paulg

      "If it turns out that the coronavirus did escape from a lab in Wuhan, Twitter is going to owe ZeroHedge an apology" - I'm pointing out that the ToS violation had nothing to do with Twitter 'arbitrating truth' and getting it wrong, as the tweet implied & most of the replies echo'd

      2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
    5. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 16 Apr 2020
      Replying to @noUpside

      It's fine to ban an account for violating the ToS, but when Twitter flags any link to the site that anyone else posts on Twitter, especially using the language that they do, they're implying that the site is dangerous to users, not merely that its owners broke Twitter's rules.

      3 replies 2 retweets 15 likes
    6. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 16 Apr 2020
      Replying to @paulg @noUpside

      Imagine if when HN banned a user, they also banned links to their site. That would either be a ridiculously draconian punishment, or would imply that there was something wrong with the site. If we assume Twitter is not ridiculously draconian, they're implying the site is bad.

      2 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
    7. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 16 Apr 2020
      Replying to @paulg @noUpside

      (In the case of spammers, HN mods often do simultaneously ban a user and their site. But in that case they do mean to imply there is something wrong with the site.)

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside 16 Apr 2020
      Replying to @paulg

      Right and in that case the ban is behavioral; they wouldn’t owe an apology just because the spammer’s claims that their product reduced belly fat turned out to be true.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 16 Apr 2020
      Replying to @noUpside

      HN mods ban spammers' sites because they're offtopic. It doesn't matter whether their claims are true or not.

      6:44 PM - 16 Apr 2020
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        2. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside 16 Apr 2020
          Replying to @paulg

          Right, which is what I said there. Behavioral ban. Maintaining a particular community standard. In this case, harassment ban. Doesn’t matter if the claim was staggeringly prescient, a broken clock hitting the jackpot, or wrong. Behavioral.

          2 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
        3. Cullen Gallagher 🧢‏ @BrockDenton 16 Apr 2020
          Replying to @noUpside @paulg

          Renee, you’re always very well informed and analytical. What’s your current read on this situation? Are you leaning toward the “lab-created virus” story as authentic or as disinformation? No worries if you’re still gathering info.

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