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    1. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 17 Feb 2020

      Question for advertising experts: What percent of Google's revenue would disappear if companies stopped buying traffic they'd get anyway, from the search results?

      130 replies 74 retweets 767 likes
    2. Justin‏ @JuJoDi 17 Feb 2020
      Replying to @paulg

      Isn’t the “beauty” of Google’s model that advertisers can’t know this?

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 17 Feb 2020
      Replying to @JuJoDi

      Then can know it by turning off ads and seeing what the effect is.

      5:28 AM - 17 Feb 2020
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        2. Jitariu Catalin‏ @catalin357 17 Feb 2020

          Which they are not. Or more exactly they *will be made to not be*

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        1. Jatin Sharma‏ @matters_of_mind 17 Feb 2020
          Replying to @paulg @JuJoDi

          Relentless pressure to grow at x%/month keeps startups from taking such a bold step.

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        2. mainak‏ @mainak 17 Feb 2020
          Replying to @paulg @JuJoDi

          Exactly! This famous eBay experiment is a classic!! https://thecorrespondent.com/100/the-new-dot-com-bubble-is-here-its-called-online-advertising/13228924500-22d5fd24 …

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        3. Gabriel Botelho‏ @GabrielBoteIho 17 Feb 2020
          Replying to @mainak @paulg @JuJoDi

          This is a BIG article by the way. I thought it would never end. But the content is really interesting ^^

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        2. Justin‏ @JuJoDi 17 Feb 2020
          Replying to @paulg

          That would only tell you how much Google refers your traffic organically. It doesn’t capture a metric for when Google would have shown your ad and your site as a result for the same search or if you would have converted that search without an ad.

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        3. Justin‏ @JuJoDi 17 Feb 2020
          Replying to @JuJoDi @paulg

          Which is the only revenue Google loses if you could somehow stop paying for ads to searches that would have resulted in traffic anyway

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        1. Rick Bruner‏ @rickbruner 17 Feb 2020
          Replying to @paulg @JuJoDi

          There are various ways to run experiments on search, with randomized controls based on PII (eg hashed emails) or zip code holdouts. More advertisers are doing so and making conclusions about incrementality. See if you can find a paid search ad for a Netflix title, for example.

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        1. Saverio Bianchi  🧭‏ @SaverioBianchi 17 Feb 2020
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          The fundamental catch is that organic search visibility is (also) function of total site traffic: hence less paid traffic = structurally less organic traffic over time which can only be truly countered with unique brand and exclusive product offering

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        1. Nassim Dehouche‏ @ndehouche 17 Feb 2020
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          Isn't the question about Google's revenue? Advertisers cannot know that by turning off ads.

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