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    1. Mattias Ljungman‏ @Ljungman 30 Jan 2020

      Mattias Ljungman Retweeted Paul Graham

      It’s amazing the impact of these changes. My wish is to be able to standardise funding documentation across Europe.https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1222804854193774592 …

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      Paul GrahamVerified account @paulg
      Jessica and I were talking about who in Silicon Valley has had the most effect in proportion to how well they're known, and we both picked the same person: Carolynn Levy. https://www.startupschool.org/videos/79 
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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 30 Jan 2020
      Replying to @Ljungman

      Why not just use the SAFE? Is there some reason it only works in America?

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        2. Jeff Lynn‏ @jeffseedrs 30 Jan 2020
          Replying to @paulg @Ljungman

          It does, but it varies from country to country. Relatively straightforward in the UK, more complex elsewhere in Europe.

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        3. Jonathan Miles Baker‏ @Jon_M_Baker 30 Jan 2020
          Replying to @jeffseedrs @paulg @Ljungman

          Thanks Jeff 🙏 Would a safe be eis compliant? And any important reason to choose safe over ASA?

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        1.  👾 = levelUp(SuperManfred)‏ @SuperManfred 30 Jan 2020
          Replying to @paulg @Ljungman

          I used a SAFE in Australia

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        1. Luis Shemtov  🏳️‍🌈 🇮🇱 🇪🇺 🤖 💪‏ @shemtovo 30 Jan 2020
          Replying to @paulg @Ljungman

          These need country by country adaptations unfortunately, esp considering tax events. Wouldn't even sure be so sure it works in America or just Delaware

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        2. Mattias Ljungman‏ @Ljungman 30 Jan 2020
          Replying to @paulg

          As you see from the comments it’s not straight forward but of course there is a way. The idea is to use a SAFE with very standard adjustments depending on country and maybe translation. I need to do more homework ...

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        3. Neil S W Murray‏Verified account @neilswmurray 30 Jan 2020
          Replying to @Ljungman @paulg

          In Denmark, we have a "Danish equivalent" called a Hatch document, I've used it both to fundraise and to invest with.

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        2. Imran Ghory‏ @imranghory 30 Jan 2020
          Replying to @paulg @Ljungman

          A common solution is to flip to a delaware topco and just use a vanilla SAFE (most of the growth funds at Series B+ will favour this kind of structure in any-case and it makes hiring US employees easier)

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        3. Mattias Ljungman‏ @Ljungman 30 Jan 2020
          Replying to @imranghory @paulg

          Good point re hiring in the US. It’s nice to be able to solve for that early on. I have had a nightmare with US options in the past.

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        2. Mimmo Cosenza‏ @magomimmo 30 Jan 2020
          Replying to @paulg @Ljungman

          We ported the SAFE in Italy at the beginning of 2015. But the italian rules do not allow to fund a company without saying the equity value in case of bankruptcy, which is one of the goal of SAFE: not evaluate a startup at the beginning of its lifecycle.

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        3. Mattias Ljungman‏ @Ljungman 30 Jan 2020
          Replying to @magomimmo @paulg

          Thanks for sharing.

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