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    1. Flo Crivello‏ @Altimor 13 Jan 2020

      You wouldn’t believe how many French people believe that profitable businesses should be forbidden from firing employees. I suspect it’s a double-digit percent of the population. Hard to explain why it’s a bad idea to people unable to think in systems.

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    2. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 13 Jan 2020
      Replying to @Altimor

      One way to make it clear to them would be to ask if this principle extends to the football team they support.

      6 replies 1 retweet 131 likes
    3. Xavier Faure‏ @XFaure 13 Jan 2020
      Replying to @paulg @Altimor

      Don't think it would be convincing. In my understanding, they believe that the role of the economy is to provide jobs, not to be "the best". An analogy with an extremely competitive sport will just convince them that "capitalism" is just for the elite.

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    4. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 13 Jan 2020
      Replying to @XFaure @Altimor

      What would they say if you reminded them that French companies doing x compete with companies in other countries doing x, and that if the French ones do it badly, they'll go out of business and all those jobs will be lost?

      5 replies 0 retweets 17 likes
    5. Xavier Faure‏ @XFaure 13 Jan 2020
      Replying to @paulg @Altimor

      That this system is perverse, pitting poor people from every countries against each other, and that we should get rid of it. They don't see firing as a means to continuously evolve and improve for customers and employees, they see a social murder for money.

      1 reply 1 retweet 9 likes
    6. Xavier Faure‏ @XFaure 13 Jan 2020
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      And in France, with our high unemployment, getting back can be very hard when you fall through. So there's some truth in their perception.

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 13 Jan 2020
      Replying to @XFaure @Altimor

      No doubt it is hard to get hired when it's impossible to fire someone you've hired by mistake. So this phenomenon is self-perpetuating...

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        2. Xavier Faure‏ @XFaure 13 Jan 2020
          Replying to @paulg @Altimor

          Of course, it’s a vicious cycle. Hard to break. An argument that I’ve found to make people question their beliefs is to highlight that the worst job satisfaction in France is among public servants who can’t be fired. Helps them see that firing could be part of the solution.

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        3. Pierre Ouannes‏ @PierreOuannes 13 Jan 2020
          Replying to @XFaure @paulg @Altimor

          Isn't life satisfaction more relevant is that case, because the "no firing" policy is to provide a better lifestyle for everyone, not better jobs? And if so, what is the relative life satisfaction of public servants?

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        2. Flo Crivello‏ @Altimor 13 Jan 2020
          Replying to @paulg @XFaure

          Yes. I often tell French people that the best social safety net is a low unemployment rate.

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        3. Simone Vincenzi‏ @svincenzi 13 Jan 2020
          Replying to @Altimor @paulg @XFaure

          The causal relationship between low job security and low unemployment rate is tenuous at best. The US and in particular the SV are outliers.

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        1. Steve Mushero‏ @stevemushero 13 Jan 2020
          Replying to @paulg @XFaure @Altimor

          Yeah, always confused why folks don't get that - of course we need to protect people at some level everyone can debate, but hard-to-fire hurts innovation, startups, and risk-takers most. Won't generate employment, hurts resource re-deployment for growth, hiring, etc.

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