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    1. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 9 Dec 2019

      One reason the Bay Area is so expensive is that the way to make a successful startup is to make the right product, not to pay employees less. So cheaper locations have no advantage.

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    2. George Stocker‏ @gortok 9 Dec 2019
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      Except you get a longer payroll runway on the same capital which gives you more chances to figure out what the right product is.

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 9 Dec 2019
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      In principle that could make a difference, but empirically it doesn't. Probably because good founders can usually raise more money if they need it, even if things aren't quite working yet.

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        1. Vinay Jaiswal‏ @viswal 9 Dec 2019
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          ... Or a smarter employee (assuming he is being paid more) can write a more optimised code or convince/convert/target a higher value customer and hence returns higher bang on the buck spent on him or run faster experiments.

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        2. Saurabh Saha‏ @neocortex666 9 Dec 2019
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          This seems more like a confirmation bias where to prove Bay Area is the only place to build products, people will produce any literature to prove their point. The reality might be stark different

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        3. qw3rty Gandalf‏ @517p705 9 Dec 2019
          Replying to @neocortex666 @paulg @gortok

          Interesting...This is the first time I would disagree with PG...and somewhat agree with you thanks to the Nassim's BlackSwan

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        1. Dafini Nelson-Jaja 🦅 🇳🇬‏ @DafiniNJ 9 Dec 2019
          Replying to @paulg @gortok

          you've stressed start-up prudency in the past, no unnecessary expenditures i.e Yoga studios or overly expensive offices, does that still stand? If talent and product are what it really comes down to.

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        1. Todd Troxell‏ @xtat 9 Dec 2019
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          Raising and product development, or especially technical R&D are incredibly different skills though that require mostly separate bodies of work. Raise more money = now you have two problems 😃

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        1. David Kemmerer‏ @David_Kemmerer 9 Dec 2019
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          Huge confirmation bias

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        1. Saul Lieberman‏ @Saul_Lieberman 9 Dec 2019
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          usually. and this assumes that employees come out whole.

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        2.  💉= 🥳‏ @jabuppartyon 9 Dec 2019
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          By "empirically it doesn't", you mean the numbers of succeses? Would love to see the numbers on failures who specifically blamed location and payroll costs over lack of product value.

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        3. qw3rty Gandalf‏ @517p705 9 Dec 2019
          Replying to @jabuppartyon @paulg @gortok

          I'm also interested in seeing these numbers if they've been compiled by anyone.

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        1. Johnny Ringo‏ @johnnyringofwc 9 Dec 2019
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          The majority of investors are so risk averse or socially compliant that they often miss opportunities that make total and complete sense. Lots of betas where you would expect alphas.

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