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    1. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 17 Nov 2019

      The scary thing about this graph is that it suggests we have another China-sized disaster in the pipeline, in the form of India.https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co-emissions-per-capita-vs-gdp-per-capita-international- …

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    2. Kaushal Shah‏ @kaushalvshah 17 Nov 2019
      Replying to @paulg

      So are you suggesting emissions are fine as long as GDP per capita is also high. So rich people are allowed to emit more. I had higher expectations after reading Hackers and Painters. But I am open to change my opinion.

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 17 Nov 2019
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      Not fine but (judging from the graph) inevitable. So if a country slides rightward on the graph, it will also move upward. And if it's a big country, that's a lot of CO2.

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        2. Mohit Joshi‏ @other_musings 17 Nov 2019
          Replying to @motherwell @paulg @kaushalvshah

          It’s a shame that planners are not challenging this assumption. Humans don’t need to be hooked on to Emissions.

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        1. cube kumar‏ @cube_kumar 17 Nov 2019
          Replying to @paulg @kaushalvshah

          I wonder if its the right graph to comment about total volumes when per capita numbers are being depicted here.

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        1. madhur‏ @madhu3184 17 Nov 2019
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          Another thing that needs to be considered is the geographical spread/ population density of the country. High pollution per capita is much less harmful in say Russia(pollution spread across the country) than in India. Pollution density is an important but missed metric.

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        1. Chirag Meswani‏ @CMeswani 17 Nov 2019
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          Mr Graham, what would you suggest as solutions to this? Hope that you agree that india needs to pull out its masses from poverty. Is there a carbon efficient way to do that?

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        1. Shriram Bhat  ⚡‏ @TheShriramBhat 17 Nov 2019
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          Does it really work that way? As per the same dataset, with less than 1/4th the population of India, the US has generated 2.14 times CO2 that of India.

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        1. Akash Jain‏ @Akashjainiima 18 Nov 2019
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          Wow so when rich countries did it, ignorance was bliss. When developing countries do it then world is moving to a disaster. Well said!

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        1. Kaushal Shah‏ @kaushalvshah 18 Nov 2019
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          Interestingly enough, if one scrolls the timeline around 1970-1980, USA emission per capita is almost constant with nominal GDP per capita growth. So, the hopeful scenario is relationship is not linear and thus, China and India (after a point) won't keep making it worse.

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