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    1. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 14 Aug 2019

      I was talking to the CEO of a startup whose customers are local governments. Me: What features do people in local government want most? What excites them? CEO: Going home at 5.

      242 replies 1,221 retweets 7,763 likes
    2. Roy E. Bahat‏Verified account @roybahat 14 Aug 2019
      Replying to @paulg

      You have such power, Paul. I wish you'd be more careful to get it right on views you spread. Maybe visit a City Hall at 8pm the night when they're crashing on an announcement?

      9 replies 3 retweets 141 likes
    3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 14 Aug 2019
      Replying to @roybahat

      You seem to be saying that it's bad if people only want to work till 5, and that this CEO's answer is thus a kind of slander. I disagree. Lots of people have something they care more about than work. E.g. children. Why shouldn't they leave at 5 if they want?

      20 replies 11 retweets 289 likes
    4. fry‏ @anniefryman 14 Aug 2019
      Replying to @paulg @roybahat

      Your tweet suggests that people in government are lazy and are only driven/inspired by indulging that laziness. I find that offensive — but more importantly — laughably dense and demonstrably untrue.

      13 replies 1 retweet 148 likes
    5. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 14 Aug 2019
      Replying to @anniefryman @roybahat

      My example was a parent who wanted to leave work at 5 so they could spend time with their kids. Surely it's more offensive of you to call that an instance of laziness.

      9 replies 0 retweets 80 likes
    6. fry‏ @anniefryman 15 Aug 2019
      Replying to @paulg @roybahat

      Your tweet suggested that the thing that excited government workers most about work was the part where you get to leave. That’s certainly how I (and others) interpreted it.

      4 replies 0 retweets 88 likes
    7. fry‏ @anniefryman 15 Aug 2019
      Replying to @anniefryman @paulg @roybahat

      As a government worker who works among many, I find that offensive, given how many passionate people make extraordinary sacrifices to be in public service. Very few of us are just living for the weekend. I think it’s dangerous and unfair to seed hostility like that.

      5 replies 1 retweet 72 likes
    8. fry‏ @anniefryman 15 Aug 2019
      Replying to @anniefryman @paulg @roybahat

      ... especially to 1+ million followers, many of whom you know assign very high value to Silicon Valley’s fetishized “work is life, life is work” mentality.

      5 replies 0 retweets 35 likes
      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 15 Aug 2019
      Replying to @anniefryman @roybahat

      It's not only people in Silicon Valley who treat life and work as identical. That tends to be true of anyone working on anything really ambitious. If you read biographies of famous scientists and artists, for example, you'll see the same pattern.

      1:44 PM - 15 Aug 2019
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        2. Roy E. Bahat‏Verified account @roybahat 15 Aug 2019
          Replying to @paulg @anniefryman

          I agree with that. I do see Silicon Valley, more often, glamorizing it. Elsewhere, more leaders treat work-life fusion as an unfortunate price to pay. (A big VC told me, from vacation, "I drop in to a startup on Saturday. If nobody's there I don't invest." Good luck parenting!)

          1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
        3. YOUNGLING RESEARCH 🔬‏ @YounglingAndCo 15 Aug 2019
          Replying to @roybahat @paulg @anniefryman

          I empathize with your POV but if you look at MMA or any other pro athlete field or chefs chasing Michelin Stars.. you see similar things. Can’t become a world champion with work/life balance. Not everyone has those goals nd that’s okay! But we should stop shaming ambitious ppl

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