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    1. Jovis Joseph  👨🏽‍💻‏ @JovisJoseph_ 23 May 2019

      "Building a startup is like Someone who jumps off a cliff and builds a plane on the way down" @reidhoffman So here is what i have to ask, how can ethics/being fair be your priority while falling of a cliff? Imo this analogy is normalising the lack ethics in startups cc @paulg

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 24 May 2019
      Replying to @JovisJoseph_ @reidhoffman

      In practice, the additional stress of starting a startup doesn't cause otherwise ethical people to behave unethically.

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        1. HalfAMonk‏ @halfamonk 24 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @reidhoffman

          It doesn’t? Huh. 🧐

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        1. Martin Vindahl Olsen‏ @mvindahl 24 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @reidhoffman

          Also, the analogy is off in that startups are not a life or death situation. Even if failing to "build the plane", you'll still land on a big soft cushion. Some regrets, probably, but also a lot of experience and a larger network. So there is no real pressure to be an a-hole.

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        1. Oliver Abrahams‏ @OliverAbrahams 24 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @reidhoffman

          Yep, it's just an analogy for life and death. Starting a start up isn't actually life or death, hence why you can maintain your ethics.

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        1. Æx‏ @anonyx10 24 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @reidhoffman

          In fact, the stress of building a startup separates the weak and unethical from the strong and ethical. A test of character.

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        2. Artem Mashkov‏ @Artem_Mashkov 24 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @reidhoffman

          If there were more ethics in Startups there would be more trust and it would feel less like jumping off a cliff.... Either do it right or don’t do it at all. When you fake it you won’t ever truly make it.

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        3. Manuel Hernandez  🇺🇸‏ @manuelhe 24 May 2019
          Replying to @Artem_Mashkov @paulg @reidhoffman

          I think ethics are probably the same across all kinds of businesses. Newspapers tells me this. With startups, there are many more unknowns which are easy to get wrong. That’s the game and that’s the gamble. By definition the startups can’t know the best decisions

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        2. Jovis Joseph  👨🏽‍💻‏ @JovisJoseph_ 24 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @reidhoffman

          But the problem is this kind of do or die/make things fast, break things fast attitude blurs the definition of ethics even for a completely ethical person. And imo the definition of ethics is so conveniently twisted in a startup environment in the name of hustle and passion

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        3. Nick Swekosky‏ @NickSwekosky 24 May 2019
          Replying to @JovisJoseph_ @paulg @reidhoffman

          The analogy is about converging to a definition of high quality of service in an undiscovered environment. Note that @reidhoffman & @paulg also teach to prioritize co-founders with similar values and aptitude rather than skillsets to avoid unethical problems

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        2. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 24 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @reidhoffman

          It's curious that substantially no one worries that someone's ethics will necessarily slide while getting married, having kids, doing a medical residency, or competing in elite sporting events, but it is widely believed that startup stress possesses some unique corrupting factor.

          12 replies 10 retweets 128 likes
        3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 24 May 2019
          Replying to @patio11 @paulg @reidhoffman

          "Congrats on having a child! Just don't feed them sawdust." "What." "Well having a child is stressful." "That is true but..." "And stress leads you to cut corners." "I would not cut that corner." "Stress also leads you to lie about it. So, no sawdust. I'm watching."

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