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    1. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 22 May 2019

      When people say that they're "updating" the look of something, what they usually mean in practice is making it more in line with current fashions. If the old look was classic, this actually a step backward.

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 22 May 2019

      Unless you're explicitly in the fashion business, if the best way you can describe a redesign is using words like "refresh" and "update" rather than saying you're fixing specific flaws, maybe you shouldn't do it.

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        2. Sergey Bukhman‏ @NinjaRabbi 22 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg

          What is wrong with making something in line with current fashions? I'm struggling to think of a single product in the software space that didn't benefit from this - when done right at the right time.

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        3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 22 May 2019
          Replying to @NinjaRabbi

          Fashion is a kind of bias drawing you away from timelessly good design.

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        2. Sebastiaan de Vries‏ @basdvries 22 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg

          If you are selling anything to customers, you certainly don’t want to leave the impression that the company is ‘dated’ and does not keep up with trends. An old website would make it seem so, in my opinion.

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        3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 22 May 2019
          Replying to @basdvries

          Depends how sophisticated the customers are. If your customers are dolts, then you're in the fashion business. But Hacker News's minimal look seems to please its comparatively sophisticated users.

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        1. Thoughts‏ @myattempt 22 May 2019
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          Change itself is a variable. Sometimes, not changing the stimulus/look is the same as having no stimulus/look at all - habituation.

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        2. Marc McCabe‏ @mccabe 22 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg

          Isn’t this like saying design doesn’t matter, or at least visual design? If you think packaging only matters in fashion then I think maybe that’s just your unique opinion

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        3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 22 May 2019
          Replying to @mccabe

          Exactly the opposite. Visual design matters a lot. What I'm saying is that if you can only describe a redesign using such words, then you're just making it more fashionable rather than better.

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        1. LJ Jones‏ @ljjones 22 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg

          Features & solving problems are more important and have a far greater impact on customer experience than look. Redesigns and refreshes rarely improve customer experience because they often just give a new look to the same features. They solve no new problems

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        2. Mayank Pandey‏ @mayankpandey 22 May 2019
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          I’m struggling for an example of a case (website/software) where old classic design hasn’t been updated, and - more importantly - doesn’t need to be updated. Do you have one in mind?

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        3. Nalin Avasthi‏ @nullyn 22 May 2019
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          Tally

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