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    1. Garry Tan‏Verified account @garrytan 17 May 2019

      Garry Tan Retweeted eric

      Startups are always traumatic. Uncertainty and risk give founders, who are conditioned to seek out pain, the limbic system shock to feel alive This is why so many founders have high ACE scoreshttps://twitter.com/ericpeng_/status/1129534802720219136 …

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      eric @ericpeng_
      Replying to @ericpeng_ @utotranslucence and 2 others
      2/ "Somehow the very event that caused them so much pain had also become their sole source of meaning. They felt fully alive only when they were revisiting their traumatic past." — Bessel van der Kolk, The Body Keeps the Score
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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 17 May 2019
      Replying to @garrytan

      You may have gone too far with this one. In my experience founders wish they could just build stuff and people would use it and pay them. I agree trauma is inevitable, but I think to most founders it's merely exhausting.

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        1. cfarm‏ @cfarm54 17 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @garrytan

          I think you might start the company because of something traumatic that happened to you. But you certainly don't hope for trauma while solving for it.

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        1. jacilyn‏ @jacilynh 17 May 2019
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          Agreed. You could say that life is always trauma, things are hard sometimes. That's not necessarily trauma

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        1. Solo founder‏ @founder_solo 17 May 2019
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          Maybe with the part about seeking out pain for the thrill part. But there certainly seems to be a pattern that good founders seems to have gone through a lot more adversity than average

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        1. Roger Dickey‏ @rogerdickey 17 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @garrytan

          My ACE score is 0.5 🤷🏻‍♂️

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        1. Rajat Suri‏ @rajatsuri 17 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @garrytan

          I agree with Garry. If founders wanted to merely build, they could get a product or engineering job somewhere else. To be a founder for a long time, you have to tolerate long periods of high stress.

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        2. Garry Tan‏Verified account @garrytan 17 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg

          Definitely not a hard rule, not *everyone* has this pathology, and that's a good thing for those who don't.

          2 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
        3. eric‏ @ericpeng_ 17 May 2019
          Replying to @garrytan @paulg

          There's a distinction between "startups are always traumatic" vs "startups are always started by traumatic founders" vs "startups are often started by traumatic founders" (I lean toward the last one). I've found that starting companies has been a form of therapy for me.

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        1. Dan O'Prey‏ @danoprey 17 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @garrytan

          That may be true of the pure engineering founders (but I'm skeptical). For those trying to build a business from scratch, I agree with Gary, trauma is typical.

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        2. Ashutosh Priyadarshy‏ @thepriyadarshy 17 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @garrytan

          Trauma? I suspect for many founders (including myself) doing a startup in the first place is a opportunity born out of privilege. Not having tens of thousands of customers (or whatever challenge your company has) does not feel traumatic.

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        3. Garry Tan‏Verified account @garrytan 17 May 2019
          Replying to @thepriyadarshy

          You’ll see.

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