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    1. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 11 May 2019
      Replying to @codinghorror

      I think programming is up there with the most important sorts of knowledge, like math and the hard sciences, history, and how to write. When you look at the world, you see more if you understand these things.

      10 replies 12 retweets 190 likes
    2. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 11 May 2019
      Replying to @paulg

      it is convenient for programmers to think that

      11 replies 0 retweets 101 likes
    3. Miguel de Icaza‏ @migueldeicaza 11 May 2019
      Replying to @codinghorror @paulg

      Learning to program is modern good hygiene. And gives you all kinds of agency beyond having a job.

      2 replies 0 retweets 16 likes
    4. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 11 May 2019
      Replying to @migueldeicaza @paulg

      I disagree; a person who can write “I have a dream” has infinitely more agency than a person who can write a Python script. Routing your communication to the computer instead of other humans tends to stunt your growth in that area, as well.

      5 replies 1 retweet 26 likes
    5. Miguel de Icaza‏ @migueldeicaza 11 May 2019
      Replying to @codinghorror @paulg

      I have no clue what you are trying to say here

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    6. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 11 May 2019
      Replying to @migueldeicaza @paulg

      Who did we learn “well, actually” from? Hint: it was not another human.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Miguel de Icaza‏ @migueldeicaza 11 May 2019
      Replying to @codinghorror @paulg

      This is a massive tangent. But I’ll reply: Well actually is purely an expression of pedantry. I am sure you can find centuries old uses of it.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 11 May 2019
      Replying to @migueldeicaza @paulg

      Is it a tangent? I know exactly the median attitude of every hacker news poster, and they are insufferable pedants. Guess where they learned that from? Their daily co-worker, the computer. It’s a field with significant occupational hazard.

      3 replies 1 retweet 13 likes
    9. Miguel de Icaza‏ @migueldeicaza 11 May 2019
      Replying to @codinghorror @paulg

      That is a problem with the medium, and merely a small distribution problem in real life. Society clues do wonders to rectify that for most people in person.

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    10. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 11 May 2019
      Replying to @migueldeicaza @paulg

      Ask yourself why there is so much backlash against “tech bros” who seemingly lack empathy. It is a field with significant occupational hazard that will stunt you via “well, actually-izing” — you tend to become who you hang out with.

      6 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 11 May 2019
      Replying to @codinghorror @migueldeicaza

      Startup founders have no less empathy than (to choose a random example) bakers. The high bit of why there is so much backlash is that they're successful. Empirically that's all you need to cause a backlash, unless the people in question are proactively self-effacing.

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        1. Kevin Burton‏ @socializ3r 11 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @codinghorror @migueldeicaza

          The thing is that if you're a jerk and you're successful you tend to have more money so you're jerky behavior is more pronounced. If you're don't have much money you can do less damage. It's selection bias basically. Though I think I would need more data to be certain.

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        2. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 11 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @migueldeicaza

          You said "Put a lot of ambitious people in one place and they all make one another more ambitious." Guess what happens when you put a lot of pedantic people in one place? Or when they work with a pedant, the computer, all day?

          1 reply 2 retweets 21 likes
        3. John Hayes‏ @ghosthayes 11 May 2019
          Replying to @codinghorror @paulg @migueldeicaza

          Is the opposite of “well actually” “can you just”?

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        1. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 11 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @migueldeicaza

          I do agree that success creates backlash though. "a computer in every pocket, always connected" kinda radically transformed the dynamics of computing.

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        2. Aleksa Cukovic‏ @Aleksa_C_ 11 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @codinghorror @migueldeicaza

          It is true that success by itself causes backlash, but I don't think it's a direct cause of it. Lack of empathy of a startup founder will typically have more impact than that of a baker because the former usually have more power because of their success.

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        3. Aleksa Cukovic‏ @Aleksa_C_ 11 May 2019
          Replying to @Aleksa_C_ @paulg and

          In other words an average person can hardly do anything big enough to receive significant amount of backlash. A successful founder on the other hand easily can because their actions have more impact and they are more visible to the public.

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