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    1. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 11 May 2019

      My kids are always coming up with startup ideas. I decided the 10 yo is now old enough to hear the truth: if you want to start a startup, the thing to be doing at 10 is learning the things that will enable you to have good startup ideas at 20. How to program especially.

      81 replies 326 retweets 2,298 likes
    2. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 11 May 2019
      Replying to @paulg

      That's interesting. I have zero desire for any of my children to be programmers.

      19 replies 7 retweets 160 likes
    3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 11 May 2019
      Replying to @codinghorror

      I don't either, if you mean in the sense of doing it as a job. But I want them to know how to program, just as I want them to know math or history.

      6 replies 6 retweets 168 likes
    4. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 11 May 2019
      Replying to @paulg

      I mean I guess in the most abstract sense that all knowledge is *somehow* useful, but my primary take on this is that everyone uses running water, but not everyone needs to know how to be a plumber.https://blog.codinghorror.com/please-dont-learn-to-code/ …

      12 replies 4 retweets 84 likes
    5. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 11 May 2019
      Replying to @codinghorror

      I think programming is up there with the most important sorts of knowledge, like math and the hard sciences, history, and how to write. When you look at the world, you see more if you understand these things.

      10 replies 12 retweets 190 likes
    6. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 11 May 2019
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      it is convenient for programmers to think that

      11 replies 0 retweets 101 likes
    7. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 11 May 2019
      Replying to @codinghorror

      I wouldn't have spent so much of my life programming if I didn't believe it was deeply interesting. I'd have been hosing myself. And I am both fairly ambitious and know about a variety of different fields, so I'm not merely naively trudging along in some rut.

      3 replies 1 retweet 88 likes
      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 11 May 2019
      Replying to @paulg @codinghorror

      I'm not saying that the stuff one does on an average day at the average startup is deeply interesting. But the fundamental concepts are, and so are some of the things you can do with programming.

      4:54 AM - 11 May 2019
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        2. Geoff Graham‏ @geoffreydgraham 11 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @codinghorror

          A subset of my kids' many ventures (from most to least profitable): fresh fruit & veggie snack delivery $$$ (B2B + recurring rev) firewood sales $$$ (semi-recurring rev) baked good stand $$ lemonade stand $ video game with tip jar rock saleshttps://geoffreygraham.com/2014/06/11/really-young-entrepreneurs/ …

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        3. Roshan‏ @RoshanChain 11 May 2019
          Replying to @geoffreydgraham @paulg @codinghorror

          Amazing read. You’re doing amazing by teaching and mentoring them at such a young age.

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        1. David‏ @dscoughlin 11 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @codinghorror

          I know more people than I can count who ‘program’ on a regular basis. Scientists, engineers, artists. Knowing enough to solve a problem through data structures and operations, and being able to distinguish it from ‘art’ is an essential facility.

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        2. Gleb &ampie.app& Posobin‏ @posobin 11 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @codinghorror

          Knowing how to program lets you predict what you can solve with code and how hard it would be, and startups are usually about solving problems with code. If you can’t predict that, your ideas will have to be filtered by others, decreasing the number of useful ideas you generate.

          2 replies 2 retweets 30 likes
        3. Corey Tabaka‏ @coreytabaka 11 May 2019
          Replying to @posobin @paulg @codinghorror

          Except the part about predicting how hard it would be, no one does that very well 😉

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        2. Petrus Theron‏ @PetrusTheron 11 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @codinghorror

          I wonder if engineers working on average problems invent problems for themselves to remain in the flow state more easily, including using dopamine-triggering tools.

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        3. Michael Frank Martin‏ @riemannzeta 11 May 2019
          Replying to @PetrusTheron @paulg @codinghorror

          Um. CI/CD pipeline = dopamine triggering tool, complete with random non-deterministic losses

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        1. Michael Frank Martin‏ @riemannzeta 11 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @codinghorror

          This is kind of true of the practice of law too. It's just less socially valuable in most cases.

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        1. Yousif Astarabadi  🦄‏ @YousifAstar 11 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @codinghorror

          It’s not programming itself (or plumbing) that has extraordinary value. It’s that both of these train the brain to think differently. The tool isn’t what is important, it’s knowing how to figure out how to use the tool. It’s getting good at probem solving and what tools exist.

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        1. Adam Patrick Crawley‏ @adamcrawley1 11 May 2019
          Replying to @paulg @codinghorror

          System thinking I think very important

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