Programmers getting their first jobs after school don't do nearly enough research about where would be best to work. Largely, I think, because they're in denial about the inconvenient truth that research is necessary.
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New grads would like to believe that picking an employer is like picking a college, where all the schools at a given level of "elite" are roughly interchangeable. But employers vary a lot more than colleges. Choosing an employer is a much harder problem.
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The laziness of new grads is hugely to the advantage of companies like Google, which appears to be the MIT of employers. But there's no such thing. What you want to find is the company that is now what Google was in 1999.
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Figuring out which company is the next Google is a hard problem. There's a whole class of people, known as investors, whose full time job it is. But it's not an insoluble problem. And if you're young and good at programming, you have insights no investors have.
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what should new software grads look for in an employer?
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And then even when picking an organization, within the organization itself you have teams that can vary by alot. Where making sure to "pick" the right manager is important too. Interviews are a two way street. You are interviewing them too in a way. Try and find a good manager!
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If you think new grads don't do enough research on employers, I'd encourage you to spend about 10 minutes on reddit/r/cscareerquestions and see the endless research by 230K members. (I'm a former mod there)
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Also true for new grads who want to continue with PhD work. The variability across labs is larger than the variability across schools.
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agreed. variance isn't even close
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When I graduated I applied widely and accepted the first offer I received. I needed to start somewhere and I'm glad I did. Researching is fine but I think this is a case where practice trumps theory - when you've worked at a few places you have experiences to compare.
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If someone made the ideal company-choosing platform for grads, what would it look like? Sounds like a good startup.
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Small TAM + small subset of employers want to pay for entry level. There are many now.
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