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    1. Russell Roberts‏Verified account @EconTalker 28 Mar 2019

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      The picture implies that the people who were rich in 1980 got a lot richer. The people who weren't rich in 1980 made no progress. That's not what the picture actually measures. It's a deception.https://twitter.com/STEPHEN_FINE/status/1111337978880815105 …

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      I know this is one of your favorite points because I see you make it all the time. I have no idea why you think it’s significant. Who cares if it’s not the same people?!
      9 replies 9 retweets 67 likes
    2. timoreilly‏Verified account @timoreilly 28 Mar 2019
      Replying to @EconTalker

      If this is the case, aren't all statistical measures deception? Wouldn't your same critique apply to say, mortality statistics? The two sets of "conflicting" statistics are two views of a complex underlying reality, each giving some insight.

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    3. Russell Roberts‏Verified account @EconTalker 28 Mar 2019
      Replying to @timoreilly

      Sure--but the people who use these pictures use language loosely ("the rich have gotten all the gains" "the rich have gotten richer while everyone else has been treading water.") That is dishonest. Deceptive. Misleading. Uncaveated. Unnuanced. Unacceptable for an economist.

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    4. Benjamin Jones‏ @abqpythonista 29 Mar 2019
      Replying to @EconTalker @timoreilly

      With fairly elementary mathematics, you can actually work out that one quantile of already larger incomes growing 5x faster than its complement is a potential problem even without it being exactly the same people.If you were the better self you are on the podcast, you'd see that.

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    5. Russell Roberts‏Verified account @EconTalker 29 Mar 2019
      Replying to @abqpythonista @timoreilly

      Inequality is an interesting question. We may not agree on it. But people are talking about more than that. They're talking about the rich holding everyone else down. That story in my view is inaccurate and a distortion of the data.

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 29 Mar 2019
      Replying to @EconTalker @abqpythonista @timoreilly

      If people jump in and out of the top quantile frequently enough, it's somewhat misleading even to talk about "the rich."

      6:18 AM - 29 Mar 2019
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        2. Benjamin Jones‏ @abqpythonista 29 Mar 2019
          Replying to @paulg @EconTalker @timoreilly

          I completely agree with this! Most people who talk about "the rich" or malicious people when talking about inequality are making a big distortion. Just because extreme inequality is not a conspiracy doesn't mean it's not harmful.

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        3. Russell Roberts‏Verified account @EconTalker 29 Mar 2019
          Replying to @abqpythonista @paulg @timoreilly

          Different question. And a legitimate one. But that's not what most people are doing when they share these kinds of pictures.

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        2. Benjamin Jones‏ @abqpythonista 29 Mar 2019
          Replying to @paulg @EconTalker @timoreilly

          Craving at least minor agreement, start from here. Maximum inequality + maximum mobility = One person has 99% of national income that is won in a single contest of skill. We all agree that's bad. We agree that Gini=0 is also bad. So there's a line. The question is, where?

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