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    1. Sahil‏Verified account @shl 27 Mar 2019

      Being an early employee at a startup is almost always a terrible decision financially. Great if you: - Want to start your own company - Want to learn a lot and grow ...That’s about it.

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 27 Mar 2019
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      You're conflating a choice being likely to fail and being a bad decision. The former is not the latter if the expected value is high enough and you can bear the risk.

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        2. Sahil‏Verified account @shl 27 Mar 2019
          Replying to @paulg

          I never said it was a bad decision. I'm just saying the vast majority of the time it will not return in financial upside. sometimes it will, and it'll be huge. not dissimilar to vc, no?

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        3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 27 Mar 2019
          Replying to @shl

          You said it was almost always a terrible decision. You didn't mention the upside. You mentioned a couple other nonfinancial benefits, and concluded "that's about it." Surely anyone reading that tweet would infer you were saying that, financially, it was a bad decision.

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        2. PRoales‏ @proales 27 Mar 2019
          Replying to @paulg @shl

          But what about everyone that took early jobs at startups that were wildly successful and they only got enough out of it to buy a new car?

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        3. Lean in Berlin‏ @leaninberlin 27 Mar 2019
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          bad negotiators

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        1. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 27 Mar 2019
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          Plus new hires can sometimes do way better than random (in fact better than most investors) at predicting startup outcomes. If you knew Drew and Arash at MIT and need and can judge what they're building, huge amounts of uncertainty are eliminated.

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        2. Sahil‏Verified account @shl 27 Mar 2019
          Replying to @realrajbasu @focusandgrit and

          literally I said financially only. I never said being an early employee is a bad decision overall. it changed my life!

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        1. Ivan Kirigin‏ @ikirigin 27 Mar 2019
          Replying to @paulg @shl

          It’s also addressing a single choice, when it’s actually a repeated game. Given multiple tries, the expected value decreases and so does the variance. Between my wife and me, we’ve had 9 shots in 11 years.

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        1. Justin Foeppel‏ @JustinFoeppel 27 Mar 2019
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          Would be interesting if a data-set could be analyzed which allows for calc. of EV & shows the distribution. Anybody know if a study exists? Problem w/EV is one can't run many trials. That's why one must be able to "bear the risk." Suspect many startup employees can't.

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        1. Russell Jurney‏ @rjurney 27 Mar 2019
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          Even still, I think if you do the numbers financially it’s a bad bet. That’s not the reason to do it, if you’re rational. Do it to be a part of really building something and getting it into the world and learning to do that instead of doing TPS Reports.

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