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    Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 9 Mar 2019

    Shorter programs are easier to refactor. That means refactoring tends to accelerate. We're rarely fortunate enough to experience that. But I bet most big software projects experience the opposite: that bloat breeds bloat.

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      1. Sebastian‏ @skglas 9 Mar 2019
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        true, bad abstractions due to lack of understanding and/or motivation, simple code duplication, mechanics over thinking.

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      2. David Haddad‏ @daveying99 9 Mar 2019
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        Another advantage of microservices ♥️

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      3. Syed Iqbal Simnani‏ @SimnaniIqbals 9 Mar 2019
        Replying to @daveying99 @paulg

        I love micro services- but that is coincidental. Modularity , divide and conquer and separation of concerns was always a solid design principle since decades- one could do it with almost all languages and methodologies.

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      1. dot‏ @localhostdotdev 9 Mar 2019
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        What do people do when they can't refactor? They just copy it, or wrap around the buggy piece of software. Thus creating more bloats like you said.

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      2. Syed Iqbal Simnani‏ @SimnaniIqbals 9 Mar 2019

        Most big Corporate IT enterprises have a very low adoption of micro services - monolith is still the norm. If you mean the big tech companies started in last 2 decades- Amazon, Google etc, that is a different question. History matters and lives long roots.

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      1. Sean Coleman‏ @seancoleman86 9 Mar 2019
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        Thats why I say the open/close principle should be a design goal, but not a rule in refactoring. Bloat and complexity builds from not opening components for refactoring when they should be, and instead adding on layer-upon-layer like a fossils getting buried.

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      1. Austin Salonen‏ @salonen 9 Mar 2019
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        p=mv The momentum of big software projects is what's particularly tough to overcome.

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      1. Johnie‏ @Johnie 9 Mar 2019
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        Could the same thing be said about companies/organizations? Try pivoting a company like GE vs AirBnB.

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      1. Joe Smyth‏ @JoeSmyth10 9 Mar 2019
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        That’s why Services need to really be Micro...

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