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    1. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Feb 2019

      Try this thought experiment: If new technology suddenly made it cheap to fix climate change, would Ocasio-Cortez stop wanting to raise taxes? I would guess not. I think the desire to raise taxes precedes the choice of how to spend the money.

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    2. Saikat Chakrabarti‏ @saikatc 18 Feb 2019
      Replying to @paulg

      Paul, I grew up reading your essays and have a lot of respect for you. But with all due respect, I think you are conflating two separate issues.

      11 replies 12 retweets 308 likes
    3. Saikat Chakrabarti‏ @saikatc 18 Feb 2019
      Replying to @saikatc @paulg

      1) GND is tackling a huge national project. Of course technological improvements will be necessary to make the transition cheaper, but changing our entire economy won't happen through some single silver bullet. Private industry alone literally cannot do this.

      4 replies 5 retweets 65 likes
    4. Saikat Chakrabarti‏ @saikatc 18 Feb 2019
      Replying to @saikatc @paulg

      Financing probably WON'T be largely tax revenue. Any time we've done national projects at this scale in the past, it hasn't been. See, e.g., New Deal, WW2 financing, Moonshot. Revenue for GND is not the purpose of higher marginal tax rates.

      14 replies 3 retweets 57 likes
    5. Saikat Chakrabarti‏ @saikatc 18 Feb 2019
      Replying to @saikatc @paulg

      2) Inequality and wealth gap is itself a problem. Even if we manage to create a country that solved big problems like climate change, continuously reinvented itself, and generated wealth like we did post WW2-era, wealth capture is itself an issue. See: Piketty/@AnandWrites

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    6. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Feb 2019
      Replying to @saikatc

      In my opinion, poverty is more of a problem. And since it's hard to aim at one thing and hit another, even if it seems to be adjacent, I worry that if your goal is to attack inequality, you'll miss poverty.

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    7. Ross Boucher‏ @boucher 18 Feb 2019
      Replying to @paulg @saikatc

      I don’t think you can examine poverty in isolation of inequality, they’re structurally connected, especially over longer time scales.

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    8. Saikat Chakrabarti‏ @saikatc 18 Feb 2019
      Replying to @boucher @paulg

      Exactly. This is why we need to tackle both and can't do each in isolation. A high tax rate only solves inequality if we also generate the wealth to support it. And a mobilization like GND only solves poverty if the top don't capture all the new wealth.

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Feb 2019
      Replying to @saikatc @boucher

      Really? Is the GND going to be zero-sum? It won't be possible to create wealth as part of it?

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        2. Saikat Chakrabarti‏ @saikatc 18 Feb 2019
          Replying to @paulg @boucher

          I'm saying the exact opposite.

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        3. Amy Lynne‏ @anyweighs 18 Feb 2019
          Replying to @saikatc @paulg @boucher

          he's being willfully obtuse at this point.

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        2. Ross Boucher‏ @boucher 18 Feb 2019
          Replying to @paulg @saikatc

          I think it will create huge amounts of new wealth, but if structurally almost all of that wealth goes to the top (as it increasingly has over the last several decades), you’ve missed most of the opportunity to do something about poverty.

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        3. Actively Anti Fauci‏ @somenycguy 20 Feb 2019
          Replying to @boucher @paulg @saikatc

          What new Wealth? Define wealth? How can you guarantee this Wealth? What % will each individual get ? If the GND flops, then what happens to us?

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        1. Tiago Freitas‏ @tiagoefreitas 21 Feb 2019
          Replying to @paulg @saikatc @boucher

          Wealth is used to buy stuff in a finite world. It doesnt matter if the game is zero-sum or not, what matters is the end goal, to improve the lifes of everyone or a just a few, and if that goal is shared by everyone through law. Not shared equally but fairly-progressive socialism

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