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    1. Eric Weinstein‏Verified account @EricRWeinstein 14 Feb 2019

      Eric Weinstein Retweeted Paul Graham

      Silicon Valley has a lot of wanna-be Yodas. But Paul Graham has always seemed like the real deal to me. Thus, as I’ve never known @paulg to be wrong at this level before, I must simply assume that I am not understanding what he is saying. Because this seems dangerously wrong.https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1095993046276194304 …

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      Paul GrahamVerified account @paulg
      Starting from the most abstract principles is a good way to relearn something, but a bad way to learn something.
      81 replies 27 retweets 268 likes
    2. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 14 Feb 2019
      Replying to @EricRWeinstein

      I was thinking about how I learned to program by writing horrible (but to me exciting) Basic programs, and how much more effective it was e.g. to be bitten by an n^2 algorithm before learning about orders of algorithms, rather than the other way around.

      7 replies 6 retweets 185 likes
    3. Eric Weinstein‏Verified account @EricRWeinstein 14 Feb 2019
      Replying to @paulg

      Hi Paul. That’s great! But it’s great for a particular class of learners to which you belong. There is an entirely different classes of learners who learn primarily through abstraction. That’s my class. Your class calls my class learning disabled. We’re not. We’re super learners.

      19 replies 11 retweets 139 likes
    4. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 14 Feb 2019
      Replying to @EricRWeinstein

      I'm willing to believe there are people like this, but judging from the people I've taught things to so far (YC founders and my kids and their friends) they seem to be a fairly small minority. And surely even you used verbs for a long time before knowing what a verb was, no?

      2 replies 3 retweets 31 likes
    5. Eric Weinstein‏Verified account @EricRWeinstein 14 Feb 2019
      Replying to @paulg

      A tiny minority of guitarists played upside down & backwards or tuning their instrument all in fourths. That class includes Jimi Hendrix & Stanley Jordan. All 3 major physics equation were found largely by beauty. It doesn’t work generally. Watson&Crick were incompetent at chem.

      3 replies 1 retweet 31 likes
    6. Eric Weinstein‏Verified account @EricRWeinstein 14 Feb 2019
      Replying to @EricRWeinstein @paulg

      This isn’t about numbers of individuals. It’s about impact and not marginalizing abstraction’s super learners by comparing them to those who benefit most from learning-by-doing. But yes, we all use a mixture of practice and theory. It’s just not simply one size fits all.

      3 replies 2 retweets 35 likes
      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 14 Feb 2019
      Replying to @EricRWeinstein

      Ok, I get it. In fact this has given me a theory about why many math textbooks are the way they are. I thought it was because mathematicians had forgotten what it was like not to know what they knew, but maybe they actually are teaching the way they learn.

      11:00 AM - 14 Feb 2019
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        2. Eric Weinstein‏Verified account @EricRWeinstein 14 Feb 2019
          Replying to @paulg

          It’s quite interesting. Math has fantastic interplay between these communities. As does music. Also dance. I think your advice is quite solid within a class of folks. But I would be absolutely nowhere without abstractions as my leading tool & my people benefit from your wisdom.

          1 reply 1 retweet 39 likes
        3. Eric Weinstein‏Verified account @EricRWeinstein 14 Feb 2019
          Replying to @EricRWeinstein @paulg

          Keep doing you. Just remember we’re out here too. And thanks. Peace out.

          3 replies 1 retweet 46 likes
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        2. Gregory Merchán‏ @quodvideo 14 Feb 2019
          Replying to @paulg @EricRWeinstein

          Yes. I've seen that in action. Most of the people who go on to become professors are the people who "just got it" and never had to think about how. The question from students is often "But how did you know to go from this step to that step?"

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        3. Gregory Merchán‏ @quodvideo 14 Feb 2019
          Replying to @quodvideo @paulg @EricRWeinstein

          The answers included, "It's obvious," and "Experience." Both quite useless.

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        2. Erik the Hun‏ @evilcyber 14 Feb 2019
          Replying to @paulg @EricRWeinstein

          I had trouble with many of my math textbooks in college. The incremental building within a chapter caused me not to get it until the end: the pieces didn’t make any sense until I could see the whole. This turned me off a bit and I stopped after only 3 semesters of calculus. :(

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        3. RichardT‏ @xthread 14 Feb 2019
          Replying to @evilcyber @paulg @EricRWeinstein

          There’s also a particular pedagogy problem with math - normally the strategy is ‘teach the principles of the next course while you practice the techniques of the last course.’ That has issues if the students don’t have enough of the principles for the exercises to make sense 1/2

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        1. Kevin Lacker‏ @lacker 14 Feb 2019
          Replying to @paulg @EricRWeinstein

          but when a good mathematician teaches you math 1-1, they don't do it that way. I think the textbook problem is because they get so used to writing proofs, they end up sounding like a proof even when they are really trying to teach.

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        1. Carl Sandrock‏ @chthonicdaemon 14 Feb 2019
          Replying to @paulg @EricRWeinstein

          It took me ages to realise my students weren’t skipping the examples in textbooks like I always had. I loved reading textbooks as a student, but I never worked the problems and mostly ignored the examples. My engineering students mostly start with the problems and work back.

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