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    1. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 7 Feb 2019

      Found a fabulous book published in 1675 called The Governance of the Tongue. It's basically about trolls. Chapters include "Of Detraction," "Of Lying Defamation," and "Of Scoffing and Derision."

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    2. Noah Tye‏ @noahlt 7 Feb 2019
      Replying to @paulg

      Does it seem like we've made any progress since then? Perhaps we've collectively figured out an effective way to deal with one type of troll, rendering it extinct?

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    3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 7 Feb 2019
      Replying to @noahlt

      I haven't read the book yet (just got it today) but judging by what I see on Twitter, I'm not optimistic.

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 7 Feb 2019
      Replying to @paulg @noahlt

      One of the most surprising things I've learned from forums and Twitter is how widespread the tendency to argue like a politicians is. I used to think only politicians, lawyers, etc did it. But in fact it seems closer to the truth to say that it's the default.

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        1. Noah Tye‏ @noahlt 7 Feb 2019
          Replying to @paulg

          Yeah, I'm becoming more and more sympathetic to the idea that arguing is more for the benefit of the audience than the arguers. (Which is explicitly why lawyers and politicians argue.)

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        2. Miguel‏ @miguelatwork 7 Feb 2019
          Replying to @paulg @noahlt

          This is surprising to hear considering you created a very successful online forum in HN and have been managing trolls for over a decade. Is it the political topic that makes Twitter different or something about the software?

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        3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 7 Feb 2019
          Replying to @miguelatwork @noahlt

          That's why I said "forums and Twitter." I saw it on Slashdot, Reddit, and HN before Twitter. Retweet-with-comment is one Twitter feature that definitely makes things worse here. And the huge number of users.

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        2.  😷 Pepe‏ @pepeakle 7 Feb 2019
          Replying to @paulg @noahlt

          How do politicians argue?

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        3. Noah Tye‏ @noahlt 7 Feb 2019
          Replying to @pepeakle @paulg

          You can watch televised debates for an example.

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