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    1. Tom Coates‏Verified account @tomcoates 27 Jan 2019
      Replying to @paulg

      In a country where the top 1% have had massively escalating share of the ownership of the country and the bottom fifth don’t even have healthcare, how are *democrats* engaging in class war by saying that it’s obscene for people to be billionaires while others starve?!

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    2. Tom Coates‏Verified account @tomcoates 27 Jan 2019
      Replying to @tomcoates @paulg

      I have to tell you, extraordinarily rich people declaring that being taxed at 70% for income *over $10 million a year* (not including capital gains etc) constitutes a ‘class war’ against them - this is a very, very, very bad look while a million people just missed two pay checks.

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    3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 27 Jan 2019
      Replying to @tomcoates

      Of course higher tax rates per se are not class war, any more than deportations per se are culture war. But e.g. naming specific people you want to deport, in order to excite your supporters, is culture war. And naming people you want to tax, for the same reason, is class war.

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    4. Tom Coates‏Verified account @tomcoates 27 Jan 2019
      Replying to @paulg

      You want to talk about false equivalences and logical fallacies - pointing out that the richest people in the world earn vast tracts of money and should pay more tax is not the same as attacking people’s basic citizenship rights.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. Tom Coates‏Verified account @tomcoates 27 Jan 2019
      Replying to @tomcoates @paulg

      Perhaps you’re arguing that someone saying that George Soros should be deported because he’s a Jewish mastermind attempting to deform democracy is the same as saying Jeff Bezos should pay more tax? One of those is a racist anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. One isn’t.

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    6. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 27 Jan 2019
      Replying to @tomcoates

      That's rather a straw man, don't you think, to take an extreme example of culture war and a mild example of class war, and propose I'm saying they're equivalent? Of course they're not. You don't seem to be even trying to argue honestly here...

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    7. Tom Coates‏Verified account @tomcoates 27 Jan 2019
      Replying to @paulg

      You aren’t providing *any* examples *at all*. You’re arguing completely in the abstract saying there is an equivalence without providing any evidence. You’re letting people fill in the gaps with their own prejudices.

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    8. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 27 Jan 2019
      Replying to @tomcoates

      I was referring to Elizabeth Warren's recent tweet attacking some guy who bought an expensive yacht, and saying that he was the sort of person she had in mind for the new tax she proposed.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 27 Jan 2019
      Replying to @paulg @tomcoates

      This is of course nowhere near as bad as what Trump says about immigrants. The Republicans are far down the road of culture war, and the Democrats, as I said in my original tweet, are just start starting down the road of class war. But both are bad roads.

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    10. Tom Coates‏Verified account @tomcoates 27 Jan 2019
      Replying to @paulg

      So she said the owner of the redskins bought a $100 million dollar super yacht as evidence that the ultra-rich could probably afford to pay a bit more tax and your argument is that this is the start of a terrifying march towards a class war?

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 27 Jan 2019
      Replying to @tomcoates

      This particular tweet isn't the start of it. There are several Democrats who use the soak-the-rich tax argument in the same way the Republicans use the deport-the-Mexicans immigration argument. And it's not that terrifying yet. As I've said (over and over) they're just starting.

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        2. Tom Coates‏Verified account @tomcoates 27 Jan 2019
          Replying to @paulg

          All rational positions can be seen as the first step towards a crazy statement. Since you like logical fallacies, this is called “The Slippery Slope Fallacy”. As it stands they’re arguing for fairly limited income redistribution to pay for healthcare and education...

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        3. Tom Coates‏Verified account @tomcoates 27 Jan 2019
          Replying to @tomcoates @paulg

          Their views are still considerably *to the right* of pretty much every single European government. Pretending this is the beginning of some insane spiral towards communism is ... indefensibly disingenuous for a man of your experience and intelligence.

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