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    1. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 22 Jan 2019

      Paul Graham Retweeted Thomas Sowell

      I wouldn't say I agree with this, but there is a whiff of truth to it. And I think it's worth trying to understand the point of view of people who feel this way, if we want to decrease polarization.https://twitter.com/ThomasSowell/status/1087410248531496961 …

      Paul Graham added,

      Thomas Sowell @ThomasSowell
      "What do automobiles, guns, and home-schooling all have in common that makes the liberals hate them? All these things reduce individual dependence on the government and on the grandiose schemes for other people's lives created by liberals and imposed by government."
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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 22 Jan 2019

      Perhaps a correct version would be "We want to be independent of the government. Cars, guns, and home-schooling increase our independence. But because liberals don't want as much to be independent of the government, they only see the downsides of these three things."

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        1. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 22 Jan 2019

          Still more correct would be to say that liberals and conservatives want to be independent of the government in different ways. (E.g. being a slave to medical debt is not exactly independence.) But now the ideas are getting too long for a tweet.

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        1. Kris Siegel‏ @KrisSiegel 22 Jan 2019
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          But there is literally not a "whiff of truth" to that. It doesn't even make sense. Cars, guns and home-schooling have externalities on the community. Externalities that have negative effects are what the government is supposed to work towards fixing.

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        1. Brendan Boyle‏ @brendanboyle87 22 Jan 2019
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          I can understand this but I cant understand people who want to drive everywhere but dont want to help pay for roads.

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        2. Daniel Kornev‏ @danielko 22 Jan 2019
          Replying to @paulg

          It's just one of the sides. But yeah, one could say liberals believe that with government intervention, more people would be protected from illness, lack of shelter and food, without any action of their own. Conservatives believe if you want something, work for it, or die.

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        3. David Manheim‏ @davidmanheim 22 Jan 2019
          Replying to @danielko @paulg

          That's as much of a straw man as the original statement. No, conservatives don't want people to die. They want a somewhat different balance of personal and societal / governmental responsibility than liberals do.

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        1. Bardia𐃏‏ @thepericulum 22 Jan 2019
          Replying to @paulg

          Are cars opposed by liberals? What?

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        1. Amin Ben Said  📦 ♻️‏ @AminBE 22 Jan 2019
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          Guns increase independence? 🤔🤷🏽‍♂️

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        2. David Manheim‏ @davidmanheim 22 Jan 2019
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          David Manheim Retweeted Thomas Sowell

          All three can also impose externalities, which is why policymakers impose regulations. But it's not dichotomous. Everyone wants some balance of liberty and corrective intervention. Conservatives want more liberty than the status quo, while liberals want more intervention.https://twitter.com/ThomasSowell/status/1087410248531496961 …

          David Manheim added,

          Thomas Sowell @ThomasSowell
          "What do automobiles, guns, and home-schooling all have in common that makes the liberals hate them? All these things reduce individual dependence on the government and on the grandiose schemes for other people's lives created by liberals and imposed by government."
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        3. Trevor Andersen‏ @trevorandersen 22 Jan 2019
          Replying to @davidmanheim @paulg

          Is there some way to quantify that conservatives want more liberty than liberals? Seems to me that the two groups tend to value the liberty versus intervention balance differently in different areas.

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        1. Fabr‏ @brzbrn_ 22 Jan 2019
          Replying to @paulg

          And when that "We" (all?) become independent of the government, what will the government be for?

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