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    Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 17 Jan 2019

    One of the biggest disconnects between school and reality: schools give you credit for effort, but customers don't. Young founders often get whiplash from this transition at YC. After 21 years of getting credit for effort, it suddenly stops.

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      1. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 17 Jan 2019

        That would do as well as anything as a definition of adulthood: when you stop getting credit for effort.

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      2. Maciej Fijałkowski‏ @fijall 17 Jan 2019
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        Do American universities give you credit for effort? They don't in Eastern Europe, which was a big shock for me coming from high school, where they do.

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      3. Theodosus‏ @Atheodosus 18 Jan 2019
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        I think they mean partial grades. You do not have to get the right final answer to a problem. You will get some points if your approach and method are sound I also had exams with open problems with no correct answer and you had to find a general form of how the solution looks.

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      2. Bernard‏Verified account @bdesarnauts 17 Jan 2019
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        Somewhat similar difference between B2B and B2C service businesses. Only hear from C when things go wrong. Thankless mode.

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      3. Eric Richards‏ @EricRichards22 17 Jan 2019
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        Is that a meaningful difference between B2B and B2C? I think that when software is working, you never hear anything, regardless of who you sell it to.

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      1. BillTheConquerer is working on Gilded Conqueror.‏ @LearningBill 17 Jan 2019
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      2. Marissa Montgomery‏ @marissamary 17 Jan 2019
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        Also no outsized returns in undergraduate- you can't knock it out of the park on just one assignment and get an A, assignments are averaged and have an upper limit

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      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 17 Jan 2019
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        That is a very important point. Interestingly, there are outsized returns in grad school in math and fields sufficiently near it: if you solve some very important open problem, that's an automatic PhD.

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      2. Robert E. P. Levy (rplevy@gmail.com)‏ @rplevy 17 Jan 2019
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        Maybe that's also why the economically nonsensical Labor Theory of Value has appeal to many young people.

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      3. Irving Rivas‏ @iajrz 17 Jan 2019
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        I always counter that theory rather flippantly, asking people to grow plants without any tools or fertilizer. Surely having a higher work/produce ratio makes your produce more valuable! Or at least you can tell yourself that while starving.

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