It's the literal sense that I meant. What's misleading about it? They're not systematic death camps, which I guess people might take from "concentration camps"; but I'd hope that people with education in political history would not make the mistake of reading that into the term.
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Replying to @lastpositivist
It’s misleading because there’s no reason to have a panic attack over the literal sense.
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Replying to @paul_hundred
I didn't advocate panic attacks or anything similar. But general principles which make many of us opponents of the US justice system's massive overuse of incarceration as tactic for dealing with social problems give us reason not to want literal-actual concentration camps either.
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Replying to @lastpositivist
It sure looked like you claimed predictive victory by substantively changing the meaning of the thing in question.
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Replying to @paul_hundred
You're concerned I substantively changed the meaning to its literal meaning?
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Replying to @lastpositivist
People were worried about Trump building concentration camps in the sense I noted above. Others thought that was absurd. Then Trump built concentration camps in a different sense. And you claimed victory over the people who called it absurd. You don’t see the problem?
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Replying to @paul_hundred
Oh I see. It's possible we were all talking past each other, but it didn't seem so. My sense of my interlocutors was they thought it absurd because they thought that if Trump would do anything it'd be The Wall, otherwise he'd just continue Obama's policies but do so less quietly.
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Replying to @lastpositivist
Yeah maybe a bit of past-talky. But wrt camps isn’t Trump indeed continuing Obama’s policies, just louder or more exposed? (That’s my current impression but I might be out of the loop.)
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Replying to @paul_hundred
Ah so my impression (don't take me as expert!) is that part of what's happened is resources are being invested into expanding capacities for incarceration and legal scope of who is to be subject to incarceration - this is the camps - and this was our original bone of contention.
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Replying to @lastpositivist
Ok - I don’t see this quantitative increase/trend-continuation as constituting a qualitative phase change to anywhere near the kind of fears I was hearing in those days.
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(But given your position and concerns, I certainly get your distaste and intolerance for the aforementioned continuation/increase.)
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