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    1. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo May 11

      1/ Hypothesis: crypto has a "Bitcoin Bias": almost all thinking analyzes crypto networks as being much more like BTC than they are. As first mover, BTC is highly salient, and everyone in crypto either got rich from BTC, knows ppl who did, or wishes they got rich from BTC.

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    2. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo May 11

      2/ This explains incorrect expectation that utility tokens will have significant price (because BTC is a low-velocity a store of value, hence has a high token price), that networks should be designed around linear blockchains (because BTC is).

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    3. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo May 11

      3/ It's why people assume money/payments/store of value are primary use cases. It's why so many hate the idea of stablecoins (esp. fiat-pegged) - BTC is deflationary, meant to rise in price as it is adopted, and has an anti-fiat philosophy.

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    4. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo May 11

      4/ And it's why people think that buying tokens early is the way to profit from each new crypto network (since that worked so well for BTC). I think this is false for most networks, and there will eventually be an Altcoin Apocalypse.

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    5. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo May 11

      5/ This not a diss of BTC, it is one of the 3 tokens I own, and by definition it's the one token that should be analyzed with a BTC bias! But it represents only a small part of the potential crypto space, from both a product and tech perspective.

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    6. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo May 11

      6/ Thus I believe that people are over-invested in things that seem like Bitcoin (look good in a BTC-biased analysis), and under-invested in things that seem unlike Bitcoin (look bad in a BTC-biased analysis).

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      Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo May 11

      7/ Which means we can profit by thinking of crypto in non-BTC ways, and analyzing investments with less Bitcoin Bias than the crowd. Fin. Thoughts?

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        2. Michael Goldstein‏ @bitstein May 11
          Replying to @patrissimo

          All of this just makes Bitcoin sound like an even better investment. It's not just a Schelling point. It's a basilisk. One glance at Bitcoin & it takes over your mind. There could be plenty of interesting cryptographic systems to invest time and money in post-hyperbitcoinization.

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        3. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo May 11
          Replying to @bitstein

          Since shared confidence is a key requirement for store-of-value, that's a great point. But why wait to build out the rest of the space? Best to start now (just not by minting and shilling tokens).

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        4. Pierre Rochard‏ @pierre_rochard Oct 4
          Replying to @patrissimo @bitstein

          It’s not about waiting, it’s about prioritizing. There’s a monumental backlog of work to be done on Bitcoin

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        5. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo Oct 4
          Replying to @pierre_rochard @bitstein

          Well, here's Grinch-ily hoping that Crypto Winter terminates many of the unnecessary competing tokens, and frees up developer resources and mindshare to take on that backlog.

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        2. Joey Miller‏ @joe_miller0 May 11
          Replying to @patrissimo

          Agree that ppl invest in tokens that hope they'll be money buy don't have BTC's properties. But I have a hard time seeing what else cryptocurrency is good for (as an investment). Equity tokens would be regulated out of existence bc they rely on third parties. What's left?

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        3. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo May 11
          Replying to @joe_miller0

          I see crypto as a general technology for conveting the illiquid, opaque, and offline into digital economic networks. Storage, compute, stocks, bonds, property title, tickets... An extension of the trend of eBay, Uber, AirBnb, etc. It's about markets, not money.

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        4. Joey Miller‏ @joe_miller0 May 11
          Replying to @patrissimo

          I like the tech, but don't buy the investment thesis. All of those things have value iff backed by real assets. Right now, they don't entitle you to anything. It's like buying iron ore bc one day Chuck e cheese will stamp tokens out of it.

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        2. Trey Goff‏ @Libertylifter May 11
          Replying to @patrissimo

          There’s an interesting alternative perspective here: if everyone ceases BTC-biased analysis, the space becomes more fractured from an outsider’s perspective, which increases perceived complexity, reducing potential interest and adoption writ large.

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        3. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo May 11
          Replying to @Libertylifter

          My hope is not for the masses to eliminate BTC Bias, but to decrease it among those building & investing in the space. Outsiders don't need to know about other use cases until they are actually useful. (Well, unless your funding model is retail ICOs, which I object to).

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        4. Trey Goff‏ @Libertylifter May 11
          Replying to @patrissimo

          Ah, then we totally agree! 😁

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        2. Leland Gregory‏ @Polycephaland Oct 4
          Replying to @patrissimo

          I don't think there's anything as close to as interesting as sound money. "bitcoin bias" is just sound money bias, and sound money is the missing tool that savers desperately need.

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        3. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo Oct 4
          Replying to @Polycephaland

          Sound money is fascinating and very important, but it's just one use case. I think that "Markets eating the world" (as represented by eBay, Craisglist, Uber, Lyft, Airbnb, ...) has much broader potential to be a large, diverse sector/trend.

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        4. Leland Gregory‏ @Polycephaland Oct 4
          Replying to @patrissimo

          ok but you don't need a separate coin for that. just pay with bitcoin

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        1. Sambodhi Prem‏ @SambodhiPrem May 11
          Replying to @patrissimo

          How do you define "the potential crypto space"? And "thinking of crypto in non-BTC ways"? Thinking in "BTC ways" is about sound money while "the crypto space" is everything else (ICO, scams, FOMO, FUD *and* good ideas etc) *minus* sound money? #TryingToGetClarity

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        1. Will  🗣️  🌐‏ @FluidFluxation May 12
          Replying to @patrissimo

          Will  🗣️  🌐 Retweeted Adam Taché  🎑

          Theory 4https://twitter.com/Adam_Tache/status/983808219561766913 …

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          Adam Taché  🎑 @Adam_Tache
          I just published “The Many Faces of Bitcoin” https://medium.com/p/the-many-faces-of-bitcoin-1c298570d191 …
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        1. David Ryal Anderson‏ @davidryalpug May 11
          Replying to @patrissimo @kate_sills

          Exactly. The winning token (ecosystem) will be non-speculative, likely pegged to national currency but without offramps to them, and have limited initial uses. But bottom-up wins in the end, just that no one gets dispriportionately rich for being a creator or early adopter. Mmhmm

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        1. Bagel Catcher‏ @wh0sthatd0g May 11
          Replying to @patrissimo @kate_sills

          Bagel Catcher Retweeted Patri Friedman

          👇👍👍 I often refer to blockchain as "a new way to organize people"https://twitter.com/patrissimo/status/995046279532036096?s=19 …

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          Patri Friedman @patrissimo
          Replying to @jeremyrwelch
          I think of the space as being about distributed digital networks with internal markets, none of which requires a blockchain or native currency. Someone in this thread said "agoric technology", which is a nice term. Airbnb and eBay almost qualify, for example.
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        1. Psycho Sage‏ @psycho_sage May 11
          Replying to @patrissimo

          It is going to see a dot com style bust. The Market cap would be around 10$ T , by that time. Long way to go. Real madness is yet to begin

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        1. Assange, Clean your bathroom ➳ Yang Ventures ➳‏ @YangVentures May 11
          Replying to @patrissimo

          Great thread. Agree with all except #6. <1% of ICO tokens look like Bitcoin to me because they're all premined &/or centralized pieces of junk.

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