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On virtue, venture, family, freedom, crypto and (of course) building startup countries on the ocean.

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    1. Robin Hanson‏Verified account @robinhanson Apr 29

      "Economist Robin Hanson, rather than reacting to this news like a normal human, decided that … lesson to really be learned here is that there must be a `redistribution of sex.'" No, I compared policies to cut sex & income inequality, but support none of.https://wonkette.com/633206/the-week-in-garbage-men-incels-sympathizers-make-case-for-redistribution-of-vaginas …

      16 replies 4 retweets 89 likes
    2. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo Apr 29
      Replying to @robinhanson

      Welcome to the 2010s. Focus on logic, ignore triggers/associative thinking, & you get hate mobbed by morons signaling their disgust. It's the new way. But don't sweat it, they can't hurt you, just keep being you. Others are fighting the battle for open debate, and winning.

      6 replies 5 retweets 79 likes
    3. Jon  💀 Skeletone‏ @shotscarecrow Apr 30
      Replying to @patrissimo @robinhanson

      I mean, this isn't "the 2010s" - this is all human culture ever. Associative thinking is our natural disposition - getting round it takes care and consideration, which is where Robin has gone wrong.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo Apr 30
      Replying to @shotscarecrow @robinhanson

      I disagree that, 50 yrs ago, Robin's point that laid/paid inequalities have parallels would lead to hate mobs yelling "hurr...bad man says make me screw losers...he loser...he evil...hate!!!" And I disagree that every academic should be a diplomat. Consideration is anti-truth.

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        2. Jon  💀 Skeletone‏ @shotscarecrow Apr 30
          Replying to @patrissimo @robinhanson

          50 years ago we didn't have Twitter. But we certainly did have people reacting strongly to tactlessness. And no, consideration is not 'anti-truth'; it's part of being able to express oneself clearly.

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        3. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo Apr 30
          Replying to @shotscarecrow @robinhanson

          Our flawed human brains cannot consider "how will this be received" without contaminating our evaluation of "what is true?" Truth is monogamous, it permits no other considerations.

          1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
        4. Jon  💀 Skeletone‏ @shotscarecrow Apr 30
          Replying to @patrissimo @robinhanson

          That is, frankly, an asinine approach. Truth can only be expressed in language and language is inherently a matter of "how will this be received". You cannot separate the two.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo Apr 30
          Replying to @shotscarecrow @robinhanson

          That's like saying that pizza and love are the same, because we talk about them both with words. I'm sorry that you are so lost in the world of spin that you find it incomprehensible that language could be used to describe a search for objective truth.

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        6. Jon  💀 Skeletone‏ @shotscarecrow May 1
          Replying to @patrissimo @robinhanson

          I'm sorry, but that is a completely idiotic reply that doesn't grapple with what I said at all. Of course you can use language as part of a search for truth. But you can't communicate any truth without regard to how your words will be understood.

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        7. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo May 1
          Replying to @shotscarecrow @robinhanson

          You can communicate with a focus on logical meaning, rather than being hamstrung by working around associational thinking. Avoiding triggers & misinterpretation takes many more words, and is sometimes impossible (ie subjects taboo to even mention)

          1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
        8. Jon  💀 Skeletone‏ @shotscarecrow May 1
          Replying to @patrissimo @robinhanson

          If you haven't avoided misinterpretation then you've failed. It doesn't matter how 'logical' you think you are - you have not communicated what you meant to communicate. Complaining that it takes 'many more words' is basically complaining that communication is hard.

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        9. Jon  💀 Skeletone‏ @shotscarecrow May 1
          Replying to @shotscarecrow @patrissimo @robinhanson

          And no subject is so 'taboo' that skilled and considerate writers can't find a way to address it with the appropriate tone. All you're doing here is making excuses for bad writing by citing purity of intent.

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