1/ Ok, I agree that the line between good and evil falls exactly between "advertising for Jordan Peterson" and "advertising for Stefan Molyneux". BUT it's insane hypocrisy for the left to criticize the right for...recruiting from the desperate and suffering.https://twitter.com/MrHappyDieHappy/status/967027082537721856 …
There are redeeming and admirable things about nationalism & ethnonationalism. Those things don't mean "hating and killing", they mean organizing in like groups to form societies. And most alt right are ethnonationalists, not Nazi-lovers.
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Yeah, I'm not going to be okay with ethnonationalism as "redeeming and admirable". I don't see any way to separate ethnonationalism from ethnic cleansing (which I've seen alt-Right people advocate, in various less and more violent forms). It's a *bad* way to form a society.
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I see America as the first large, successful non-ethnostate. So ethnonationalism is the foundation of every country in history & the most proven way to build a stable society. I like US better, but it still seems insane to call ethnonat irredeemably evil w/ nothing admirable!
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I recognize that ethnonationalism played an important historical role, but it did so at enormous cost. Probably the greatest social achievement of the 20th century was to begin to move beyond that, and due to that history it's so very fragile. Going back is utterly unacceptable.
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While I agree with you about the superiority of a blended society, I think it is the fragile system. I think an objective appraisal of Europe or America today clearly shows "post-ethnonationalism" to have been foolishly optimistic. Sad, but you gotta admit it to fix it.
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