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    1. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo Jan 16

      1/ I doubt I'm the first to say this, but: #HODL is a cartel, one which (approriately) is simultaneously pedestrian and innovative in the same ways as #cryptocurrency itself.

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    2. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo Jan 16

      2/ It's pedestrian because it's just a group of producers (hodlers) restricting supply to maintain price (Econ 101 - https://www.cliffsnotes.com/study-guides/economics/monopolistic-competition-and-oligopoly/cartel-theory-of-oligopoly …).

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    3. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo Jan 16

      3/ A cartel works even better for a store of value than a good or commodity because there is no "use value" being compared to the price. The nominal (fiat) price almost doesn't matter, so demand is highly inelastic, hence price is highly sensitive to supply.

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      Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo Jan 16

      4/ But it's innovative because the cartel is massive and decentralized (much like the technology itself). Large cartels have been considered difficult to impossible due to coordination problems and the incentive to defect. But #BTC has, so far, proven that wrong.

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        2. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo Jan 16

          5/ It has done so by brilliantly constructing a shared culture around supply restriction (HODLing), and (most importantly), a shared expectation that this is the route to greatest individual profit - removing the incentive to defect.

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        3. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo Jan 16

          6/ Are they right? Will it work? The answer depends on how fast non-speculative uses are developed to support the demand, whether price drops attract or repel new investors, and on whether the HODL cartel can actually hold (err..."actually hodl").

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        4. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo Jan 16

          7/ I can't help but be reminded of @ESYudkowsky and his Timeless Decision Theory (http://intelligence.org/files/TDT.pdf ). If HODLers can continue to act in unity, as TDT agents rather than traditionally rational ones, their prophecy will self-fulfill.

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        5. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo Jan 16

          8/ If not, then there's no floor on the short-term price decrease, and today's prices will evaporate until enough non-speculative demand exists to justify them. (Which, if it happens, will be the ultimate vindication of the most dedicated hodlers).

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        6. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo Jan 16

          9/ Final thought: BTC's governance issues stem, at least partially, from the disappearance of the founder. But in truly Zen fashion, this is one area where Satoshi's inaction is perfect leadership. His only contribution is to be hodler-in-chief. But it's an important one.

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        2. Victorca‏ @tobaccocologne Jan 16
          Replying to @patrissimo

          a decentralized pyramid scheme. is it better than a centralized pyramid scheme or is it worse?

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        3. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo Jan 16
          Replying to @tobaccocologne

          Well, kinda but also not. There is real value being built, unlike in a pure pyramid scheme. If the cartel can hold price long enough for Bitcoin to be a useful product (which will happen), they can cash out to end users.

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        4. Victorca‏ @tobaccocologne Jan 16
          Replying to @patrissimo

          it was a useful product and now its not. because of hodlers. value of a medium of exchange depends on people adopting it because they value it as a medium of exchage not hoarding it for merely exploiting.

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        5. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo Jan 16
          Replying to @tobaccocologne

          How does hoarding prevent use as MoE? Bitcoin is infinitely divisible, as long as even 1 coin is for sale, the "hoarding" just means less transactions, lower fees and faster clearing.

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        6. Victorca‏ @tobaccocologne Jan 17
          Replying to @patrissimo

          hoarding shouldnt be incentivized with the system. if hodling is the most profitable thing its users could do then theres something wrong with the level of exploitation. why not actually nobody use their bitcoins, like zero bitcoins in circulation? why is current level right?

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        1. Andi W‏ @AndiWausS Jan 16
          Replying to @patrissimo

          #hodl is a smart contract running on a hodler's brain (freely adapted from @NickSzabo4)

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