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    1. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo 22 Dec 2017

      2/ Obviously some users can hedge via futures, but if you're stashing money b/c you live in a current/potential kleptocracy (the Holocaust scenario) the CBOE is not an option.

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    2. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo 22 Dec 2017

      3/ As speculators we expect everyone to just join the hodl club, but that exemplifies the immaturity of the tech/us. Most users don't want to be speculators, so if using and speculating are commingled, that's bad for actual use & ultimately for our investment.

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    3. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo 22 Dec 2017

      4/ A club that won't let anyone in who doesn't want to gamble is going to end up being a club of gamblers, not the world new financial system. A good StableCoin is one possible answer.

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    4. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo 22 Dec 2017

      5/ Making one, however, without centralization or counterparty risk, is...non-trivial. But deeply fascinating if you're into monetarism & cryptoeconomics! Looking forward to continued community speculation on the topic.

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    5. Breno Brito‏ @brenorb 22 Dec 2017
      Replying to @patrissimo

      IMO any coin will be stable as soon it gets sufficient adoption. The dollar is stable even with QE because of the world adoption and demand. BRL is less stable in world terms b/c it's used solely in Brazil, but it's relatively stable inside Brazil despite inflationary policies.

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    6. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo 22 Dec 2017
      Replying to @brenorb

      Certainly a coin at full adoption will have more stable value. However, I question whether a (non-stablecoin) cryptocurrency will ever be as stable as USD. Won't demand shift among altcoins far more than among fiats (which each have a locked-in market)?

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    7. Behfar Bastani‏ @behfar_bastani 22 Dec 2017
      Replying to @patrissimo @brenorb

      Perhaps demand shift among alts could be dampened by a “basket of alts” coin, in analogy to a “basket of metals” dampening demand shift betw say gold & silver.

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    8. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo 22 Dec 2017
      Replying to @behfar_bastani @brenorb

      I like it! The issue for backing a token w/ one or more commodity/fiat is the counterparty risk (who holds the reserves?). But a stablecoin contract that securely holds and automatedly trades altcoins would be a trustless reserve.

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    9. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo 22 Dec 2017
      Replying to @patrissimo @behfar_bastani @brenorb

      In general I'm not sure how a network would securely hold private keys to accounts other networks, but it seems easy for an Ethereum contract to exchange/hold ERC20 tokens.

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    10. Behfar Bastani‏ @behfar_bastani 22 Dec 2017
      Replying to @patrissimo @brenorb

      Perhaps http://prism.exchange  could be used for this. Use ETH contracts to hold a basket of alts in proportion to their market caps. Provides stability without traditional reserve-holder-counterparty risk. Result = a synthetic “stablecoin”?

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      Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo 22 Dec 2017
      Replying to @behfar_bastani @brenorb

      The big problem with this is that altcoins have high correlation with each other. "Basket of altcoins" is not that stable. Maybe if you have a basket of USDT-style pegged tokens, then at least your counterparty risk is spread out?

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        1. Breno Brito‏ @brenorb 23 Dec 2017
          Replying to @patrissimo @behfar_bastani

          Actually they don't. If you calculate the correlation of daily changes during 2 years, they'll be as low as 0.3 for most coins. If you look for shorter periods, like 30d, you'll see they have periods w/ neg corr. and highly pos corr. Depends on the shock scenario.

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        1. Breno Brito‏ @brenorb 23 Dec 2017
          Replying to @patrissimo @behfar_bastani

          They usually don't. But since it is a very small, free and globalized market, there's a lot of things that affect cryptocurrencies in general.pic.twitter.com/em0yZivfuc

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        1. Breno Brito‏ @brenorb 23 Dec 2017
          Replying to @patrissimo @behfar_bastani

          The problem is that a usdt-style coin lacks the best crypto feature and the most important for us, 3rd world citizens: the monetary policy written in code, so governments cannot create inflation. But this feature is also a bug in this early phase, it creates the volatility.

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