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    1. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo 22 Dec 2017

      2/ Obviously some users can hedge via futures, but if you're stashing money b/c you live in a current/potential kleptocracy (the Holocaust scenario) the CBOE is not an option.

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    2. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo 22 Dec 2017

      3/ As speculators we expect everyone to just join the hodl club, but that exemplifies the immaturity of the tech/us. Most users don't want to be speculators, so if using and speculating are commingled, that's bad for actual use & ultimately for our investment.

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    3. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo 22 Dec 2017

      4/ A club that won't let anyone in who doesn't want to gamble is going to end up being a club of gamblers, not the world new financial system. A good StableCoin is one possible answer.

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    4. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo 22 Dec 2017

      5/ Making one, however, without centralization or counterparty risk, is...non-trivial. But deeply fascinating if you're into monetarism & cryptoeconomics! Looking forward to continued community speculation on the topic.

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    5. Breno Brito‏ @brenorb 22 Dec 2017
      Replying to @patrissimo

      IMO any coin will be stable as soon it gets sufficient adoption. The dollar is stable even with QE because of the world adoption and demand. BRL is less stable in world terms b/c it's used solely in Brazil, but it's relatively stable inside Brazil despite inflationary policies.

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    6. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo 22 Dec 2017
      Replying to @brenorb

      Certainly a coin at full adoption will have more stable value. However, I question whether a (non-stablecoin) cryptocurrency will ever be as stable as USD. Won't demand shift among altcoins far more than among fiats (which each have a locked-in market)?

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    7. Behfar Bastani‏ @behfar_bastani 22 Dec 2017
      Replying to @patrissimo @brenorb

      Perhaps demand shift among alts could be dampened by a “basket of alts” coin, in analogy to a “basket of metals” dampening demand shift betw say gold & silver.

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    8. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo 22 Dec 2017
      Replying to @behfar_bastani @brenorb

      I like it! The issue for backing a token w/ one or more commodity/fiat is the counterparty risk (who holds the reserves?). But a stablecoin contract that securely holds and automatedly trades altcoins would be a trustless reserve.

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    9. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo 22 Dec 2017
      Replying to @patrissimo @behfar_bastani @brenorb

      In general I'm not sure how a network would securely hold private keys to accounts other networks, but it seems easy for an Ethereum contract to exchange/hold ERC20 tokens.

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    10. Behfar Bastani‏ @behfar_bastani 22 Dec 2017
      Replying to @patrissimo @brenorb

      Perhaps http://prism.exchange  could be used for this. Use ETH contracts to hold a basket of alts in proportion to their market caps. Provides stability without traditional reserve-holder-counterparty risk. Result = a synthetic “stablecoin”?

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      Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo 22 Dec 2017
      Replying to @behfar_bastani @brenorb

      That's close to what I'm imagining. Market cap is nice since no rebalancing (important!). You would buy in/cash out using a full basket. Though I think vulnerability to exchange arbitrage or price-feed attacks is a serious concern.

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        1. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo 22 Dec 2017
          Replying to @patrissimo @behfar_bastani @brenorb

          I was also thinking, rather than keeping a cap-weighted basket, you let people buy in/sell out with any altcoin; converting at a rate based on the current valuation of that coin relative to the reserve pool. But that's potentially even more vulnerable to arbitrage.

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