I see where you are coming from (and may even agree in the case of free countries) but evidence suggests that ethnic, sexual, and religious minorities as well as political dissidents will suffer greatly under the Chinese dictatorship’s new social credit systems.
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Sure, there may be country-specific factors that lead to that. But most Westerners seem to be reacting against the idea as dystopic on its face, not realizing that data-based social credit actually counteracts the pervasive racism that stems from humans' intuitive stereotyping.
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If stereotypes are wrong, a data-based approach will reveal that. Whereas we know our human brains tend to crudely stereotype, right or wrong.
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People won't stop stereotyping because some government score tells them the person is fine. The deeply entrenched stereotypes you refer to are mitigated over multiple generations. I'm skeptical you can hasten that process by using a score.
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Or that a score would be more efficient than a suit. Many reasons. The first one is that there is a mismatch between your expectation that people will work to correct their biases and the reality, that people will rationalize them until repeated positive experience corrects it.
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"This fellow has a high score because of the affirmative action", "That fellow has a high score because this is a fellow-owned bank and they control the world" etc. no way the state has enough trust capital to have the citizenry rely on it, it will have to be through coercion
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If an Uber driver sees your score and not your picture...seems like that works. I think people's stereotypes (racist for example) are mild, and cause harm in aggregate. But because they are mild, they are easy to override with data.
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private social credit systems & public ones aught to be viewed differently, no?
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Yes, but they don't differ in their ability to reduce discrimination based on false stereotypes, by offering data to replace our racist heuristic intuition.
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the differ a lot in the likelihood they will be abused.
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I certainly agree that Exit matters.
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Yeah on the surface it seems like a great idea until you imagine a world where the wrong people are in charge (like now)
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I don't think I've ever seen a (political) world where the right people were in charge.
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Any system that counts on the right people in charge to work is usually doomed to fail
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Baizuo? Baizhou is congee.
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but what's a congee that is the real question?
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Congee is a form of
#stablecoin during economic crisis in Ancient China!
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Arghhh I have gone and done it again. Damn my first world whiteness damn it straight to hell.
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I think this is going to depend on the ends to which they're deployed. In ruthless pursuit of profit, they tend to strip away all irrelevant characteristics like race. In pursuit of power, they strip away anything that isn't blind obedience.
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