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Patri Friedman

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On virtue, venture, family, freedom, crypto and (of course) building startup countries on the ocean.

San Jose, CA
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    1. Vitalik Non-giver of Ether‏Verified account @VitalikButerin Sep 5
      Replying to @mwilcox @sonyaellenmann @robinhanson

      Yep!

      4 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
    2. Mark Wilcox‏ @mwilcox Sep 5
      Replying to @VitalikButerin @sonyaellenmann @robinhanson

      How would you "move beyond" borders then? In terms of protocol design, there's not a lot of difference from an individual restricting access to their property and a nation state restricting their border

      1 reply 2 retweets 17 likes
    3. Mark Wilcox‏ @mwilcox Sep 5
      Replying to @mwilcox @VitalikButerin and

      In both cases, the optionality of invitation is what creates mutual respect between agent & state

      3 replies 1 retweet 14 likes
    4.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Sep 5
      Replying to @mwilcox @VitalikButerin @robinhanson

      It's a zero-sum game in a way that personal property isn't. We haven't yet figured out how to manufacture more territory, attempts like seasteading notwithstanding.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Mark Wilcox‏ @mwilcox Sep 5
      Replying to @sonyaellenmann @VitalikButerin @robinhanson

      I don't think it is. The more nations there are, the more opportunity for diversity, and the more value each nation gets from openness. We think we need mega-armies of super-powers for internal freedom, but with the right balance of incentives we could have much more competition

      3 replies 3 retweets 18 likes
    6. Sambodhi Prem‏ @SambodhiPrem Sep 5
      Replying to @mwilcox @sonyaellenmann and

      cc @patrissimo

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    7. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo Sep 6
      Replying to @SambodhiPrem @mwilcox and

      No borders means no systems and no diversity. There is a thermodynamic metaphor where a system can only exist with a border, and if you take down all borders, you get heat death. To have a diversity of political systems requires strong borders between them.

      3 replies 4 retweets 19 likes
    8. Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo Sep 6
      Replying to @patrissimo @SambodhiPrem and

      This idea is expanded on in my essay "The Heat Death of Humanity: Progressivism as the Second Law of Thermodynamics"https://athousandnations.com/2015/02/23/the-heat-death-of-humanity-progressivism-as-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics/ …

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    9.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Sep 6
      Replying to @patrissimo @SambodhiPrem @mwilcox

      I'll read this, thanks! Feel free to tell me "read the essay first" but my next question is, without completely open or closed borders, you run into a need to optimize the level of permeability. (For example, skills-tested immigration.) What's the best way to empirically balance

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Sep 6
      Replying to @sonyaellenmann @patrissimo and

      ...the economic gains from freedom of trade and movement versus the QOL and civic downsides of weakening cultural cohesion?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      Patri Friedman‏ @patrissimo Sep 6
      Replying to @sonyaellenmann @SambodhiPrem @mwilcox

      There's no simple answer to a question like this where goals vary and the underlying causal functions are poorly understood. Fortunately, I have a meta-answer: a diverse industry of competing city-states will discover good sets of tradeoffs. It's engineering, not philosophy.

      3:58 PM - 6 Sep 2018 from San Rafael, CA
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