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How would you "move beyond" borders then? In terms of protocol design, there's not a lot of difference from an individual restricting access to their property and a nation state restricting their border
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Replying to @mwilcox @VitalikButerin and
In both cases, the optionality of invitation is what creates mutual respect between agent & state
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It's a zero-sum game in a way that personal property isn't. We haven't yet figured out how to manufacture more territory, attempts like seasteading notwithstanding.
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I don't think it is. The more nations there are, the more opportunity for diversity, and the more value each nation gets from openness. We think we need mega-armies of super-powers for internal freedom, but with the right balance of incentives we could have much more competition
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Replying to @SambodhiPrem @mwilcox and
No borders means no systems and no diversity. There is a thermodynamic metaphor where a system can only exist with a border, and if you take down all borders, you get heat death. To have a diversity of political systems requires strong borders between them.
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Replying to @patrissimo @SambodhiPrem and
This idea is expanded on in my essay "The Heat Death of Humanity: Progressivism as the Second Law of Thermodynamics"https://athousandnations.com/2015/02/23/the-heat-death-of-humanity-progressivism-as-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics/ …
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I'll read this, thanks! Feel free to tell me "read the essay first" but my next question is, without completely open or closed borders, you run into a need to optimize the level of permeability. (For example, skills-tested immigration.) What's the best way to empirically balance
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Replying to @sonyaellenmann @patrissimo and
...the economic gains from freedom of trade and movement versus the QOL and civic downsides of weakening cultural cohesion?
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There's no simple answer to a question like this where goals vary and the underlying causal functions are poorly understood. Fortunately, I have a meta-answer: a diverse industry of competing city-states will discover good sets of tradeoffs. It's engineering, not philosophy.
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