By that logic, we don't need to study management if we already have great businesses, we don't need political science if we already have great leaders, and we don't need kinesiology if we already have great athletes
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Odgovor korisnicima @jasoncrawford @AgnesCallard i sljedećem broju korisnika:
Practice often (always?) precedes theory. Theory builds on practice and makes it more effective and efficient. Newcomen and Watt came before Carnot but thermodynamics helped improve steam engines.
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So we have always had progress studies, and learning thermodynamics is part of it..?
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No but if we applied your logic, we would have had to tell Carnot not to bother with thermodynamics, since past progress in engines hadn't depended on it
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Odgovor korisnicima @jasoncrawford @AgnesCallard i sljedećem broju korisnika:
I wonder if Agnes is making the case that progress studies are in a special category here: creating thermodynamics _is_ progress. But understanding how progress happens is obviously unnecessary for progress to happen, and may actually be counter-productive.
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Odgovor korisnicima @spearofsolomon @jasoncrawford i sljedećem broju korisnika:
Perhaps this would be better illustrated by using air-quotes: "Understanding" how progress happens is obviously unnecessary for progress to happen.
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Odgovor korisnicima @spearofsolomon @jasoncrawford i sljedećem broju korisnika:
I was making a weaker point, namely that "Is a historical understanding of how progress happens conducive to progress?" ought to be a question of primary interest to Progress Studies--otherwise we have a "learn from history for thee but not for me" situation.
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Odgovor korisnicima @AgnesCallard @spearofsolomon i sljedećem broju korisnika:
Fair enough. I interpreted your original statement in a stronger form
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Odgovor korisnicima @jasoncrawford @spearofsolomon i sljedećem broju korisnika:
To be clear: (1) I meant it as an honest question, not a forgone conclusion that the answer would be "no" (that was the "weakening" I was referring to) (2) I think if the answer is "no" then that should, at the very least, prompt some soul-searching about the whole project
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Odgovor korisnicima @AgnesCallard @jasoncrawford i sljedećem broju korisnika:
I think you can view the late 19th century US university reform movement as a quite successful instance. Harper at Chicago, Rogers at MIT, Gilman at Johns Hopkins all deliberate students of what had come before, particularly in Europe.
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How Rogers framed the goal for MIT in 1860. The institution he then proposed was quite unique.pic.twitter.com/DwlI3n1Zmd
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Odgovor korisnicima @patrickc @jasoncrawford i sljedećem broju korisnika:
this manifesto does not readily lend itself to an interpretation of an activity/institution in which the study of history would figure very prominently
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