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    1. Patrick Collison‏Verified account @patrickc 17 Aug 2019
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      I don’t really understand articles like the below. (There are many.) Google generated very little cashflow in 2001. The relevant questions are presumably around what the equilibrium can, should, and will look like in 40 years.https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2018/05/15/are-electric-cars-worse-for-the-environment-000660 …

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      Patrick Collison‏Verified account @patrickc 17 Aug 2019
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      Almost by definition, you can’t draw meaningful conclusions about nascent technologies or industries with present-state analyses.

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        2. Jake Seliger‏ @seligerj 17 Aug 2019
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          That's true, but, unfortunately, you can draw a whole lot of pageviews with present-state analyses. A lot of contemporary problems in journalism and "journalism" have their root cause in the race for clicks.

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        3. Patrick Collison‏Verified account @patrickc 17 Aug 2019
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          That's no doubt part of it but can't (I think?) explain things like this paper: https://pubs.aeaweb.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1257/aer.20150897 …. That's not to say the efficiency of electric vehicles today is irrelevant. (I mean, we need to know what to optimize.) But the focus on the point-in-time comparison is odd.

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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Aug 2019
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          Quite true, and why one should spend empirically-grounded but imaginative effort to understand where things might be going while also trying hard to measure at each step because by the time you get the full picture it's too late with potentially a lot of negative lock-in.

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        2. Michael Jackson‏ @mjackson 17 Aug 2019
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          Very well-said. I need to borrow this when I talk to my family about electric vehicles. They keep talking about how most electricity is generated by burning coal 😅

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        3. Stephen Ferrin‏ @spferrin 18 Aug 2019
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          I agree completely. These articles seem to all be written by someone who either doesn't understand the vision, or who does understand it and benefits by tearing the vision up for others.

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        1. Liberty‏ @LibertyRPF 17 Aug 2019
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          These articles have been around forever. I remember one claiming that the Hummer was greener than the Prius. It's mostly clickbait preying on the natural human attraction to counter-intuitive stories, and to the prejudices of those who don't want to change.

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        2. gui larange‏ @glarange72 17 Aug 2019
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          By now you can draw some projections. As the grid decarbonizes and batteries get better, EVs will be an important component to decreasing GHG emissions. The greatest uncertainty is still in battery performance. But that’s improving almost Moore’s Law like...

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        3. gui larange‏ @glarange72 17 Aug 2019
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          Right now, the consumer is compartmentalizing. They keep the gas SUVs or pickup trucks for longer hauls and the EV is the second or third car for shorter hops. The future might be mixed. Just as cash is still around, and movie theatres etc

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        1. Vegard Wikeby‏ @vegardwikeby 17 Aug 2019
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          Hi @patrickc, just drawing the line towards Bitcoin with this, would you reconsider adding support for Bitcoin in @stripe, but this time around for Bitcoin SV where we're building no-limits for on-chain transactions? Do come and take a look at what people in BSV has achieved.

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        1. Mark‏ @logicmason 17 Aug 2019
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          And yet most VCs like to ask about market size! It's odd.

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