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    Patrick Collison‏Verified account @patrickc 16 Nov 2018
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    There aren’t many things more important than the dynamics of our scientific progress. Last year, @michael_nielsen and I started to wonder how things have fared over the past century. Here’s the result:https://twitter.com/michael_nielsen/status/1063417043372859392 …

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    michael_nielsen @michael_nielsen
    New essay from @patrickc and myself, arguing that science has suffered from greatly diminishing returns over the past century: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/11/diminishing-returns-science/575665/ …
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      2. Dusty (oh, now being a hermit is good?) Burwell‏ @dustyburwell 16 Nov 2018
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        Replying to @patrickc @michael_nielsen

        There was a rationally speaking on this earlier this year: http://rationallyspeakingpodcast.org/show/rs-205-michael-webb-on-are-ideas-getting-harder-to-find.html … It’s a deeply interesting topic. I look forward to reading the essay!

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      3. Patrick Collison‏Verified account @patrickc 16 Nov 2018
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        Replying to @dustyburwell @michael_nielsen

        Michael Webb’s work is top-notch and was a big inspiration for us.

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      2. Tren Griffin‏ @trengriffin 16 Nov 2018
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        Welcome to the Internet, where scientists play They're creatin' incremental innovations every day Internet enables these scientific gangstas' to be roamin' Experiments don't stop at eight in the mornin Nordhaus' paper showed 98% of what benefits you are me Isn't part of GDP

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      3. Tren Griffin‏ @trengriffin 16 Nov 2018
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        There is hope that one of the Internet's biggest breakthroughs ever is coming soon since Twitter just hinted that they are close to realizing the breakthrough that will enable editing Tweets to fix a typo!

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      1. Tren Griffin‏ @trengriffin 16 Nov 2018
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        Replying to @patrickc @michael_nielsen

        When a discovery is vivid or easier to recall it biases the way importance and frequency are assessed. Since "software is eating the world" excluding that from the analysis is a giant problem (e.g, open source isn't included in GDP since it has no market price (consumer surplus).

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      2. Derek Morris‏ @derek_j_morris 16 Nov 2018
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        Limiting our field of view to Nobel prizes and $ spent obscures the vast deepening in engineering knowledge which is what most science is today The big wins recently are effective Tools > Science Think CRISPR, CAR-T, monoclonal antibodies, optogenetics, deep learning, etc

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      3. Hazem A. M. Awad,PhD‏ @hazem_awad 16 Nov 2018
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        Replying to @derek_j_morris @patrickc @michael_nielsen

        The work (while super interesting and urgently needed) has an outdated view of measuring scientific progress. But I applaud authors for carrying this out. We need work like this to identify problems e.g. scientific institutions are still operating at 18 century style of research

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      1. Mike Loukides‏ @mikeloukides 16 Nov 2018
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        Mike Loukides Retweeted michael_nielsen

        Good article, though I thought @michael_nielsen’s Twitter thread from this morning was more insightful, largely because he starts to think about responses:https://twitter.com/michael_nielsen/status/1063422474216296449 …

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        As far as we know there's no serious, large-scale, organized institutional response to the challenge of diminishing returns in science. And given that science is a principal driver of our civilization's progress, a high-order bit for humanity, that's a problem.
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      2. Doriane‏ @DorianeMouret 16 Nov 2018
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        Great essay! I wish it had also talked about solutions. Michael does suggest one in his Twitter thread: The scientific research process is just too rigid and inhibits progress. We need more competition to force these processes to be more efficient. Do you not agree with that?

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      3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 16 Nov 2018
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        Sure. At an individual level there's already a tonne of competition. But at the institutional level, much less so. Not much turnover in the supposed top research universities! Or the big grant agencies.

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