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    Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 10 Apr 2018
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    I think the bigger of the two learnings from https://letsencrypt.org/  is the subtler one: of course people love getting things for free, but their lasting contribution to the state of web security is "Automating cert renewal is The Right Way To Do It and manual renewal is a bug."

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      1. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 10 Apr 2018
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        That seems like a really trivial thing, but it's not. Many large, sophisticated companies, filed with teams of highly-paid technologists, have multi-hour outages *every single year* because automatic renewal was not the happy path expected by all tools. LetsEncrypt changing that

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      2. Michael Lynch‏ @Michaelynch 10 Apr 2018
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        @codinghorror Why was it designed to be renewed in the first place? Doesn't auto renewal kind of render it's purpose obsolete?

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      3. Sune Marcher‏ @snemarch 10 Apr 2018
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        Because $$$? - probably not the reason originally, but certificates is a money printing machine.

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      1. Caddy Web Server‏ @caddyserver 10 Apr 2018
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        I'm happy to play a role in putting EVERY site on HTTPS! 🔒 And seriously -- site owners, use a web server with integrated certificate management that's enabled by default. It'll improve your site's uptime and increase your productivity.

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      2. Abhay Saraf‏ @naammeinkyaha 10 Apr 2018
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        It was not the cost of the cert itself (domain validated certs were always cheap or free) but rather the process of booking the expense in the accounting system which prevented automation. Free is prerequisite for automation of a distributed system.

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      3. Asyrique Thevendran‏ @asyrique 11 Apr 2018
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        Couldn't that also be viewed the other way around? That the commitment Letsencrypt had to making their certs free forced them to come up with a way to automate it all. Could be argued that you could probably find a way to automate the process of booking the expense too.

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      2. Nerd curious abt psychology  🧠‏ @ClayNichols 10 Apr 2018
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        @successfulsw does this solve the problem some mutual friends are having?

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      3. Andy Brice‏ @successfulsw 10 Apr 2018
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        It depends. I'm not sure if you can get LetEncrypt working with shared hosting.

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      1. System Rigging Robot‏ @jwatte 11 Apr 2018
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        Too real!

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