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Patrick McKenzie

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I work for the Internet, at @stripe, mostly on accelerating startups. Opinions here are my own.

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    Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 2 Apr 2018
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    Tarring and feathering technologists who happen to be in the vicinity of e.g. security errors will not successfully achieve resolutions for the process flaws which allowed those errors to happen.

    11:10 PM - 2 Apr 2018
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      2. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 2 Apr 2018
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        I'm reacting to HN discussions of the desirability of criminalizing being a CSO at a company which had a security breach. Ignoring how counterproductive that would be and focus just on will it achieve the societal goal: illegalizing X is not a sufficient process control!

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      3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 2 Apr 2018
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        "Someone robbed the bank and now depositors have lost their money!" "THEY SHOULD MAKE A LAW!" We *had the law*! The money is still gone! There need to be a few dozen things that a bank does as a matter of course because it is in a universe where crime exists!

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      1. Kevin Riggle‏ @kevinriggle 2 Apr 2018
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        Replying to @patio11

        "Blame is the enemy of safety."

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      2. Davis, Karl M.‏ @karlmdavis 3 Apr 2018
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        Personally, I see two main options for improving things at the policy level: 1) criminalize mistakes at the employee level, 2) increase civil liability at the corporate level.

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        Behaviorally speaking, that’s likely to have the opposite effect you think it will (and not very predictably opposite at that).

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        True, but it is an interesting indicator that the Panera contact used to hold a senior position at Equifax.

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