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I work for the Internet, at @stripe, mostly on accelerating startups. Opinions here are my own.

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    Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 25 Feb 2018
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    Minor heresy: "Because that's where the money is" is a perfectly valid reason to study programming or seek a job in software. We're capitalists, right? That's how the market signals "Hey, pardon me, hate to interrupt y'all while you're doings you like, but I NEED WEB APPS."

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      2. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 25 Feb 2018
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        No judgement if programming really pushes your buttons. It pushes my buttons, too! But the number of people whose buttons are pushed enough to forsake other careers is radically inadequate to staff the number of software companies the world needs.

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      3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 25 Feb 2018
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        Also hate to be Marxist before my morning coffee but the "You should be *passionate* about this stuff" memeplex is designed to decrease your wages. "I want missionaries not mercenaries" is a cynical negotiating strategy; they'd never try it with someone they thought a peer.

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      2. Michael Krakovskiy‏ @deadprogrammer 25 Feb 2018
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        Replying to @michaelpryor @codinghorror @patio11

        Firstly, I’m from Ukraine. Secondly, Russians are not so much into scams as they are into taking things that are not theirs, like parts of Ukraine.

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 25 Feb 2018
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        Replying to @deadprogrammer @michaelpryor and

        Eastern Poland, you mean

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      2. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 25 Feb 2018
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        Well yeah but that also applies to BS crypto currency scams. That’s where the money is?

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      3. Michael Krakovskiy‏ @deadprogrammer 25 Feb 2018
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        I have a lot of passion for scams

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      2. 𝙅𝙚𝙨𝙥𝙚𝙧‏ @jesperht 25 Feb 2018
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        Replying to @patio11

        "because where the money is" is typically not the best long term motivator, nor ideal for happiness. Agree that it's acceptable, but should be discouraged! Do what you love is what we should strive for.

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      3. Oluseyi Sonaiya‏ @OluseyiSonaiya 25 Feb 2018
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        Your passion does not need to be your profession. This viewpoint devalues passions that do not have vibrant markets for their results. It is perfectly valid to do one thing to make a living, and engage in your passion in your spare time, free of commercial considerations.

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      1. Luke Kanies‏Verified account @lkanies 25 Feb 2018
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        It’s always driven me crazy that we demand people claim passion about the work and company. Some of my team wanted to ding someone for applying because he needed the money. I read them the riot act

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      1. hello again‏ @bobpoekert 25 Feb 2018
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        the problem is the financial incentives don't push you to be any good, they push you to learn some jargon and be good at networking and corporate intrigue

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