The stories I have heard here would have curled your toes even in the Bad Old Days.https://twitter.com/james_riney/status/927326162874970120 …
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Note: this is for founder/lead engineer and when they say “pay” they don’t mean either a market salary for SV or even for Tokyo ($50k+).
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Once asked what would compel a top engineer to ever go work for a startup here: "If the company takes off, they'll get promoted much faster"
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It can shave literally 5 years off the path to team lead! (Not even joking.)
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It gets my hackles up when founders here brag to me that they can get devs to work for little or no money.
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Sounds like graduate school
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