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I work for the Internet, at @stripe, mostly on accelerating startups. Opinions here are my own.

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    1. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 11 Nov 2015
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      Tor is having a fit of institutional pique that researchers are compromising the network's privacy guarantees by, well, looking at it.

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    2. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 11 Nov 2015
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      If you write security software, and you're not praying that loyal opposition hits you with everything they've got, you're not doing security

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      Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 11 Nov 2015
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      Tor is intended to be, and is marketed as, robust against nation state adversaries. It cannot possibly be so if it worries about academics.

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        1. zooko‏ @zooko 11 Nov 2015
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          @patio11 I don't think that's true that it is marketed as robust against nation state adversaries. Citation (link) needed!

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        1. meejah‏ @meejah 11 Nov 2015
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          @patio11 @thegrugq Tor is not marketed as such, even the overview says anyone able to watch traffic in + out of the whole network can win.

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        1.  🏴‍☠️ MC Pablo  🐘‏ @p4bl0 12 Nov 2015
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          @patio11 Even if that's true you are missing the point. Security research is not the problem, the problem is the hand-over to FBI of the IPs

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        2. Tomás Touceda‏ @touced 11 Nov 2015
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          @patio11 I think you're missing the point, anybody can attack it, but you would be that: an attacker...

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        3. Tomás Touceda‏ @touced 11 Nov 2015
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          @patio11 ... if at the end you want to say "look at what I found on the Tor network" and not have any charges against you...

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        2. Joachim Schipper‏ @JoachimSchipper 11 Nov 2015
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          @patio11 Tor clearly not secure against NSA-level attackers, client-side 0-day, or really good/targeted traffic analysis. Indeed over-hyped.

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        3. AMB‏ @AZ_Vede 11 Nov 2015
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          @JoachimSchipper @patio11 true, but better than nothing if you need what it wants to provide... my hope is that attacks push it to improve.

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        1. Richard Johnson‏ @tab2space 11 Nov 2015
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          Where do you get those claims of intent and marketing @patio11? I find the exact opposite from Tor itself, so I'm curious @thegrugq

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        1. Dirk Praet‏ @DPRamone 11 Nov 2015
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          @patio11 They're actually worried about academics being paid by nation states to do their dirty work for them. You're missing the point.

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        2. Andrew Zonenberg‏ @azonenberg 11 Nov 2015
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          @patio11 @thegrugq Note that the researchers were noisy (a few big relays, in the same subnet, etc) and got noticed but not acted on @ first

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        3. Andrew Zonenberg‏ @azonenberg 11 Nov 2015
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          @patio11 @thegrugq Spooks would prob have run the relays on zombies in a botnet, providing what looked like hundreds of legit relays

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