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I work for the Internet, at @stripe, mostly on accelerating startups. Opinions here are my own.

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    1. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 May 21
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      I think if you took software developers from 1998 and brought them to 2020 they'd think that software is blazingly fast when written ("Only *weeks* between releases? You're kidding!") and blazingly slow from a user interaction perspective ("Did a war stop Moore's Law?!")

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      Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 May 21
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      Not to be the hipster Unix guy who thinks all true software is accessible from a text-based terminal, but it's basically crazymaking to me that it takes longer for me to load Gmail, compose, and send an email than it took me to do the same thing with Pine 20+ years ago.

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        2. FromDevToFIRE‏ @FromDevToFIRE May 21
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          A lot of software now have internet latency baked in it. Kinda hard to "Moore's law" out of it

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        3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 May 21
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          Not a problem unknown to people who used Pine.

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        2. Petr Boros‏ @PetrBoros May 21
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          Speaking of which, Stripe Dashboard is not too fast either. I mean.. not terrible, but also not great. Is there an initiative within Stripe that would like to 10x this?

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        3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 May 21
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          Several, and we’re actively hiring if anyone is looking:https://stripe.com/jobs/listing/performance-engineer-san-francisco/2100580 …

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        2. Derek Kraan‏ @derekkraan May 21
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          NO KIDDING. I got so annoyed with Slack's input lag that I measured it last week with 240fps on a gopro. Turns out, input lag just typing in a chat in Slack has standard 120ms input lag and sometimes much worse (200+ms). What did we do to deserve that??

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        3. Hubert Łępicki‏ @hubertlepicki May 21
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          the major sin was turning rich text document format and language to create macros in it and turn it into full featured application development environment & runtime.

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        1. Gezim Hoxha‏ @HappyGezim May 21
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          Until you consider the fact that you’re loading Gmail on a retrofitted printer (i.e. document viewing technology aka browser).

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        2. Michael Stapelberg‏ @zekjur May 21
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          I used text email clients (mutt, notmuch) for many years. The fix is to just leave a gmail tab open. Compose+send is fast if the tab is already open. And you’ll get new emails into your inbox much faster than in any text client setup I ever had :)

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        3. John Lunney‏ @johnlunney May 23
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          If you don't want a a full Gmail tab (or to get distracted by your inbox) I prepared http://tiny.cc/compose  that loads a full-screen draft quickly. (Desktop only)

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        2. George Stefanis‏ @stefanisg May 21
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          My father though would have never been able to email me random pictures of our dog from Pine. There is maybe some value in lowering the entry bar into technology. But also long way to go still in terms of speed and software performance.

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        3. Slavo Ingilizov‏ @slavoingilizov May 21
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          Exactly this! Performance is the price we've paid for inclusion and usability improvements. There is still fast software today, just not for the majority of use cases. It's done where it matters, but there's no good ROI in speeding things up for the average Saas business

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